[Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS

Al Fitz alfitz@alfitz.com
Sat, 10 May 2003 09:19:44 -0500 

Manheim is the largest dealer auction. They produce reports for vehicle
values only to licensed dealers. They use actual data from their auctions
nationwide and it is update on a weekly basis. It is the most comprehensive
report available to those in the business.

The "black book" is also still around and we use that as well as NADA. The
KELLY BLUE book is one of the most unreliable for true values, as far as a
dealer is concerned but is great for a dealer selling a car because the
values are so inflated on the retail side.


Al Fitz SHO Specials
http://www.alfitz.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
To: "_SHOTIMES II" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS


> Never heard of Manheim before.
>
> Maybe that is something the "Black Book" that we used many years ago when
I
> sold cars?  This actually reflected real auction values and not some kind
of
> formula.
>
> Kind of weird to use, because this book would use a formula to allow for
> condition, but if that perticular make and model hadn't been sold at the
> auction block within the last 2 weeks, the value was blank.
>
> The dealer where I worked would then go to the NADA book and allow 2/3 of
> wholesale on trade for a new Chebby or Caddy.
>
> I was lucky to sell 2 cars a week, so I soon found employment elsewhere.
>
> regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <alfitz@alfitz.com>
> To: "_SHOTIMES II" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
>
>
> > Paul, I think you should re-check your EDMUNDS, it shows a value of
$2,515
> > retail.
> >
> > NADA shows a value of $3,690 retail.
> >
> > And Manheim is showing retail of $2,625.
> >
> > IMHO that SHO is worth about $2,800. The color is a real PLUS, the base
> > model and high mileage is a negative though.
> >
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> > To: "Randy Smith" <RandyMTU98@comcast.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 10:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> >
> >
> > > OK. www.edmunds.com says this car in OUTSTANDING condition is $1679.
Why
>
> > is
> > > it worth double that?
> > >
> > > Paul L Fisher
> > > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 172K Build date 11/18/1992
> > > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> > Holley
> > > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar,
Performance-Plus
> > > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs,
> > Delrin
> > > sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic
ATF.
> > >
> > > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> > >
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Randy Smith" <RandyMTU98@comcast.net>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:46 AM
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, the time has come to part with the SHO.  Where are ya Ryan,
you
> > > > still want it?  Quite a few people around here know this car.  It
> looks
> > > > very good for the miles.  I think for what is included, I've got it
> > > > priced pretty fair.  I think I'm going to move on to a WRX next
week,
> > > > so I need to get what I can out of this one.  Pictures upon request.
> > > > In addition to what is listed, it is still exibiting the noise I
> > > > described the other day.  My current bets are exhaust leak and I'm
> > > > imagining the rest of the symptoms or perhaps oil in the plug wells
> > > > hindering spark.  I swapped the MAF's yesterday and put in the LPM.
> > > > This morning it seems much more responsive out of the hole.  The
only
> > > > 60/100k service was performed at 80k.  Here are the rest of the
> > > > details...
> > > >
> > > > 94 Moonlight Blue with tan interior (rare combo) MTX
> > > > 168k miles, 2nd owner and I bought it at 127k
> > > > This car had no options from the factory.  No sunroof, no keyless
> > > > entry, no CD player (means it has the coin/cup tray!) no full
leather
> > > > (seats are in good shape)  Drivers seat is power, passenger not.
The
> > > > previous owner took it from there, and Ive added a few more things.
> > > > Engine/Exhaust: SHO Shop can (carbon fiber) and cone, factory airbox
> > > > included.  80mm MAF calibrated to factory computer.  Second 80mm MAF
> > > > with LPM.  Motorcraft plugs and wires about 20k ago.  Performance
Plus
> > > > Ypipe, DynoMax catback about 3 years ago.  UDPs (PS, Alt and water
> > > > pump)  Replaced drivers side muffler last fall.  Mobil 1 every 5k
> since
> > > > Ive owned it.  About every 3k with previous owner (another SHOtimes
> > > > lister at the time)
> > > > Chassis: 96 brake upgrade, Eibachs and Tokicos, Nooks long SFCs,
> > > > replaced rear sway bar endlinks about 2 years ago.
> > > > Interior: Momo pedals, Momo shift knob (clean original shift knob
> > > > included), Alpine CD player, Boston Accoustics 6.5s in front,
Clarion
> > > > 5x7 plates in back.  Code Alarm installed.  Customized Radio Shack
CB
> > > > in tape tray.  Cincinnati SHO floor mats.  Climate control buttons
are
> > > > cracked but ok.
> > > > Known issues/recent fixes: Rear upper strut mounts, just replaced AC
> > > > Condenser/dryer (the rusty pipe under the battery) last summer.  The
> > > > power steering gives me some trouble when its very cold and the car
> > > > isnt warmed up.  Once its up to temp, its ok.  I get squeals from
> > > > the AC and PS belts occasionally, so both may just be loose.  Rear
> door
> > > > window motor replaced 2 weeks ago.  Needs tires/alignment.  The
winter
> > > > tires have enough tread for a few more summer miles (at least
through
> > > > this summer), but they werent that great last winter.
> > > > Body: Overall good condition, the whole nose clip was repainted
about
> 3
> > > > years ago and still looks good.  Some rust on the doors and trunk.
> > > > Ive been taking care of some of it slowly.  Some battle wounds on
the
> > > > right front and left rear.  Nothing major or all that noticeable,
but
> > > > its there.
> > > > Extra parts included: Factory airbox, second 80mm MAF/LPM, GTS
> > > > headlight covers, possibly a second set of slicers, I have to check
> > > > with my dad.  If my dad wants to keep a set, the directionals have
> > > > completely warn Michelins, the non-directionals have a few thousand
> > > > miles left in the snow tires.
> > > >
> > > > This is a great car with a lot of good miles left in it.  It handles
> > > > like its on rails.  KBB says 2400, so with the miles, repairs
needed,
> > > > repairs performed and parts/mods included, Im looking for $3200
OBO.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, and I'm located in Detroit.
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