[Shotimes] Energy Suspension Bushings

[Dave Hammond]

Well shoot, now you all have me re-thinking my bushing choice....grrrrrr...

I guess its time to dial up shonut and order some TPR bushings.  Do those require any sort of greasing or maintenance?

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From:	Ian Fisher [SMTP:ianf@eden.rutgers.edu]
Sent:	Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:44 PM
To:	'Ron Porter'; 'van Oss'; 'James F. Ryan III'; 'shotimes'
Subject:	RE: [Shotimes] Energy Suspension Bushings

Well, I disagree. :)

I've tried more sway bar combos than one can shake a stick at. I've used
a 24mm, 20.6 and now a 22 bar and the 22/26 wins hands down. It's
amazing with the Quaife too. The 24/26 made the car understeer at pretty
much any "spirited" speed. 

One thing that I'll say is that the ES poly bushings suck. TPR is much
better. 

Ian


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Porter
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:51 PM
To: 'van Oss'; 'James F. Ryan III'; 'shotimes'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Energy Suspension Bushings


Well, I disagree.

Example #1: Green '95 MTX with 24/26, Koni/Eibach on Firm, AL SFB,
H-brace. For Summit Point and my favorite off-ramps that I take at 50-70
mph, the 24/26 works VERY well.

Example #2 that I'm working on: New '94 MTX with Tokico/Eibach and long
SFCs welded in. Per Randy Smith, oversteer can be induced easily since
he had the SFCs welded in (this car has the stock '94 bars, which I
assume are the 20.6mm bamboo poles). I am looking at transferring my
24/26 bars over. I may try the 26mm rear alone first, but I suspect the
24/26 combo may work better. BTW, I will also be transferring the AL
SFBs.

I agree with the autocross guys in using a small front bar for
lower-speed neutral handling, but my on/off-ramp work, plus the tracks
we do, make me believe the 24/26 works better.

No offense, but (1) you guys may do curves slower than I do, and (2) you
may have a different driving technique.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of van Oss
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:44 PM
To: James F. Ryan III; iceman@cmgate.com; 'shotimes'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Energy Suspension Bushings


Jim, I agree!  My 92 did not become a neutral handler until it got the
20/26 combo.  BTW this is a car with stock diff, SHO SHOP linear front
springs, Eibach rear, and 4 Tokicos.

Joseph van Oss


----- Original Message -----
Also, my '91+ came with the 24/26 setup from the factory and I've never
been happy with the handling - understeer.  I once drove a '90 LX wagon
(rental
car) and was amazed that it handled better than my SHO!!!

I recently bought a 22mm and a 20.5mm FSB and I'm looking forward to
testing both of them.  When I do, the ES poly bushings will finally be
thrown away and I'll try rubber bushings on the front and TPR bushings
on the rear.

As always, YMMV.  Some people like the combo you're installing, but I
vote No for the 24/26 setup and No for the ES poly bushings.

Jim Ryan
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