Fw: RE: [Shotimes] 11.87 second SHO...

[ianf@eden.rutgers.edu]

Yeah, that made so much sense I didn't get it.

Ian


> If there have not  (there was but), the first will I be (but I 
won't).  Get
> it?  Think not I do.
> 
> Toolman
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: Ron Porter
> Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 13:02:38
> To: dmall@mwonline.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Cc: 'SHO Tech'
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 11.87 second SHO...
> 
> I was bringing up the fact that saying DOHC and Four-Cam for a V6 is
> redundant.
> 
> One reason I copied the Tech List is that I don not believe there 
are, nor
> have ever been, any n/a SHOs with over 300 crank HP. Although if I'm 
wrong,
> there's folks out there with better memories than I!!
> 
> Ron Porter 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-
admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:36 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Cc: SHO Tech
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 11.87 second SHO...
> 
> 
> Ron,
> 
> What's wrong with "Four Cam-Four Valve DOHC" SHO Motor!!" ? 
> That is what they are, we just don't say it that way much.
> 
> There are cars out there pushing those type of numbers with 
> blowers, and I think there have been documented cars with 
> 300+ hp without a power adder/blower/NOS/turbo.
> 
> Anyone have any facts on what Ted ever got accomplished with 
> his car?
> 
> About the street rod, there is an old Ford in the Peoria 
> area that has a SHO driveline, but I never heard any claims 
> for power for it, it was made for a handicapped person I 
> believe with ramp and room for his wheelchair in the drivers 
> position.
> 
> ONe of these days I am going to catch that car at a local 
> show and get some pictures and a ride.
> 
> I can look past some of the BS and filter out the good 
> stuff. Got to do that a lot in life. If I lost total faith 
> in everyone or everything that ever let me down, it would be 
> a lot less interesting life for sure. :)
> 
> Don Mallinson
> 
> Ron Porter wrote:
> > Yeah, the way Del wrote was more like what you expect from a 
mainstream
> car
> > mag that has to sell ad space (can anyone say "Motor Trend"??). I 
feel the
> > SHO Club magazine is fine in this regard, but I do expect a club 
magazine
> to
> > give owners the straight scoop and not the vendor's BS. It is funny
> reading
> > back through some of the old ads and the bogus claims.
> > 
> > Actually, there WERE discussions after the "low 12s, 11.87 best" 
claim
> came
> > out, and I knew it was absolute BS. We did discuss it on the list 
and in
> > Dallas the next year, IIRC.
> > 
> > I wasn't saying that I didn't like his wheels (actually I do), or 
that all
> > the parts he discussed are bogus (Pro-M, Koni and Centerforce are 
fine).
> > It's just that once I lose the trust of an author due to bogus 
claims, I
> > don't believe anything else I read from that person. He went over-
the-top
> on
> > his descriptions.
> > 
> > Now......here's another one for the barf bag!!!!! It is the vendor,
> > specifically Bob Walter at Logicams. SHO Registry, Volume 4 Number 
1,
> Spring
> > 1994, on Page 7 (the Logicams full-page ad).
> > 
> > "Ted Breaux's 1989 "SHO" 3.0 litre DOHC Four Cam V-6 Now Making 325 
HP On
> > The Dyno Documented"
> > 
> > "A 1934 Ford Phaeton With A V-6 Yamaha Four Cam-Four Valve DOHC 
Engine
> > Making 450 HP...With A Mustang "T"-5-Speed Tranny And A Jaguar Third
> Member"
> > 
> > No mention of either of these cars with blowers. Sorry, can't buy 
either
> one
> > of these, particularly 450 HP from a "Four Cam-Four Valve DOHC" SHO
> Motor!!
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