[Shotimes] Sigh...Strikes again...:'(

Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:00:28 -0500


I've also found that putting a jack under the hub and jacking
it up helps a lot.  Opens the brake valve.


Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio

-'95 Green MTX  3/01-1/03 R.I.P.
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shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 11/02/2003 03:10:26 PM:

> Well I'm far from He-Man and I've had little trouble screwing the rear
> calipers back into place on my SHOs with the bleeder valve closed. 
Anyway,
> it's kinda hard to bleed the brakes by yourself, which is a very good 
reason
> not to bleed your brakes at the time of replacing the pads.
> 
> Oh and contrary to what some people think you do NOT have to push the 
rear
> pistons in while turning them, you just turn them.  I know this for a 
fact
> since I've done the rear brakes on a Ford somewhere in the range of 30
> times.  Never had to push, only had to turn.  Air tools also helps this 
go
> even faster.  With my impact gun I can compress a front caliper in about 
10
> seconds using a REALLY old caliper compression tool from the 70's.  No 
the
> impact doesn't damage the calipers, provided I'm not stupid and don't 
wrench
> it down as hard as I can.  Again, you should always bleed the brakes 
after
> doing work on them, it's just good habit.  You'll understand why when 
you
> remove a bunch of orange cloudy fluid from the caliper too.
> 
> -Noah South III
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "'Noah South III'" <RaggTopp@comcast.net>; "'SHOTimes-Mailing List'"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Sigh...Strikes again...:'(
> 
> 
> Let's get some terminology straight. The Bleed" the brakes is to do a 
few
> pumps at each corner to get any air out of the caliper. To "flush" the
> brakes is to do an extended bleeding to totally replace all of the brake
> fluid in the entire system.
> 
> IMHO, you should do a Flush every time you put in new pads, or once a 
year,
> whichever comes first.
> 
> At a minimum, you should bleed each caliper when you install pads.
> 
> To bleed a single caliper is a less-than-5-minute-job.
> 
> Opening the bleeder valve to screw in the rear caliper piston makes the 
job
> SO easy that there is not reason not to do it. As I mentioned, I use a 
pair
> of needlenose pliers to screw the pistons back in.
> 
> By the time you mess around with a C-clamp on the rears and try to turn 
the
> piston in with the bleeder valve closed, I can open the valve, turn the
> piston, bleed the caliper, and be DONE with that corner while you're 
still
> fartin' around with the C-clamp.
> 
> Now, the C-clamp and a small block of wood work great for squeezing in 
the
> front piston......after you open that bleeder valve, also.
> 
> Ron Porter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Noah South III
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 4:20 AM
> To: SHOTimes-Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Sigh...Strikes again...:'(
> 
> 
> Don't feel bad Shylo, my friend and I broke a C clamp doing the same 
thing
> on my first SHO.  FWIW, if you don't open any bleeder valve you don't 
have
> to bleed the system.  On the same note, you should always bleed your
> calipers when doing routine pad replacement.  Basically, if you're in a
> hurry, don't open the bleeder valves, it will save you some time.
> 
> -Noah South III
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Fourchy" <krazgeo@jps.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Sigh...Strikes again...:'(
> 
> 
> > On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:22:07 -0800 (PST), Shylo McKinsey wrote:
> >
> > >1230- FINALLY get the two bolts loose and get the
> > >rotor and caliper off. NIETHER rear caliper pistons
> > >will BUDGE AN INCH. Put both in a vice and niether
> > >moved AT ALL.
> >
> > You don't say that you tried to turn the pistons......
> >
> > If you don't know it, you must be the last one not to...  You have to
> screw in the
> > rear caliper pistons to get them to retract.  They do not press 
straight
> in.  There
> > is a special tool that engages the notches in the piston, and you turn 
the
> tool with
> > a ratchet and extension.  It helps to relieve the fluid pressure in 
the
> caliper at
> > the same time....open the bleed screw and let the fluid flow 
out....then
> rebleed the
> > system after all the new pads are installed.  Fronts don't need to be
> turned....it
> > has to do with the emergency brake.
> >
> > Sorry for all the other problems.  Hopefully your brakes will last a
> while, now.
> >
> > George
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