[Shotimes] Modded SHOs & useless powerbands WAS: OT GTP's- was squeak in left side of dash

[1badsho]

So mark

based on my motor in my Sr 72 ..... than you would expect me to easily hit 13 's range .. assuming my launch is as good as yours ! 

Like I said, I dont know what hp or torque I am making since I havent had it dynoed. But the Sr 72, unlike your Sr 71, this is strickly a track car.

Were as I think you still have all your a/c controls .. blower motor .. the case under the dash .. mine is gone.

dond

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Mark Nunnally" <manunnal@netheaven.com>
Date:  Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:20:40 -0500

>The idea is to make as much torque as possible in the rpm range where you
>run the motor.  For a street car, this is idle to 5k or so.
>
>With an n/a motor, there are only so many ways to pick up the whole torque
>curve.  cubes, compression, etc.  For bolt ons, ypipe/exhaust and UDP's do
>the same.
>
>When you start throwing in wild cams, etc...and shifting the torque curve to
>higher rpm, you are saddled with a fairly heavy car and no torque till you
>get the revs up, which gets old with a street car.
>
>The 3.2L in my 89 is a great street/drag strip motor for a SHO.  Stock cams,
>stock intake, 3.2L, etc...lots of grunt down low.  Doesn't turn great mph
>due to the peak hp limit of the cams/intake (max of 99-100 mph) but ET's as
>low as high 13's, 14.0-14.1 even with lousy air/heat such as we had at the
>convention.  However, the more I open track the car and tweak it out to be a
>pretty good "momentum" car (not really a straight-away blazer), the more I
>get more frustrated with the powerband.  With the car's weight/balance and
>tire/wheel package, I can't pretty much keep the motor wound up at most
>tracks.  So basically I'm operating in the rpm range where the torque is
>falling off (from 5k to rev limit).  This is why over winter I plan to build
>a new motor that will make more torque in the rpm range where that car needs
>it.  Plan to run a little "wilder" cam profile. EH intake with BBB's, 92.5mm
>bores with forged pistons, and to help offset any loss of low end, will be
>bumping the compression to 11:1.  This should make for a ~300 hp motor and
>still have some decent low end grunt if needed.  We'll see if I can sneak by
>on 93/94 pump with a modified spark curve, still though, even with all that,
>the old stock cam'd 3.2L from the 89 will work better in the 92 than the
>"300 hp" one would.  It's all where you want to make torque, and for a full
>weight street SHO, from idle to 5k is a better option.  For the lighter 89
>that's going to be wound up all the time, it needs more torque from 5k to
>fuel cut off.  Forget about the bench racing hp numbers, the new motor
>should make probably peak 30-40 ft/lbs more in the 5.5k-7k range, which is
>where it needs it, and will make it much quicker down the straights.
>
>mark
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Neno Albert" <neno@sbcglobal.net>
>To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'TaurusSHO'"
><shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:33 PM
>Subject: [Shotimes] Modded SHOs & useless powerbands WAS: OT GTP's - was
>squeak in left side of dash
>
>
>> I agree, this includes SHOs with the Stage XVIII bolt-on package along
>with those nifty little
>> torque limiters SHO Shop sells.... :-D Seriously though, the lack of
>torque makes most of the
>> power unusable, esp. with most the power in the higher RPMS, you ain't
>gonna get anywhere fast if
>> you're on that excessively LONG band of no HP or TQ (lower RPMS). I'd also
>like to bring up a very
>> important fact. Not many road race their SHOs. Not many go to drags to
>race their SHOs either (and
>> if they do, most of them don't crack into the 13's) with MANY mods. I've
>seen SHOs w/ full
>> bolt-ons run 14.5s and bone stock SHOs (Ryan Pasch) run 14.5s on a BONE
>STOCK Gen 2 MTX SHO! I'd
>> say stick with the OEM power and get yourself use to what you have (by
>legally pushing yourself
>> and the car to you best) and then mod it up. SHOs are sensitive enough
>stock, let alone modded.
>>
>> I just realized how far-off this is from a squeak on the side of the dash,
>so i changed the
>> subject.
>>
>> Neno
>>
>> --- Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> > Because the overwhelming majority of 300+ HP SHOs are not n/a cars.
>> >
>> > And, in the few cases of near-300 HP n/a SHOs, I have heard first hand
>that
>> > they are "fast", but they aren't "quick" (as in.......crap for torque).
>> >
>> > Ron Porter
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