Just to sho you that our motors are REALLY lightweight :-) Could call this a SHOTrotter Hey Don, I know the pic is sketchy but can you tell whats behind the V8SHO motor? I figured since you baffled us, Id return the favor :-) Kirk J Doucette NESHOC President Stormtrooper-97 White [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC01529.JPG]