[Shotimes] OT- viri scaner ....................was
(computer stuf)
Noah South III
RaggTopp@comcast.net
Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:44:20 -0500
I don't feel like playing the "I know more than you" game with you Ron. I
also don't feel like playing the name calling game with you either. I
really revel in the fact that you seem to think I'm liberal, and even
more-so "anti-capitalist." You go right ahead and believe what you'd like.
You paint a pretty portrait, but nothing could be further from the truth.
Which is why I have little doubt in accusing you of have absolutely NO clue
as to what is going on. And I thought a man of your age and experience
would have known better.......
-Noah South III
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'SHOTimes-Mailing List'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT- viri scaner ....................was (computer
stuf)
> Oh please, cut out the arrogance crap.....you are a "stupid" a user as
> anyone!!!! And not anywhere near all viruses and worms come in on
> executable attachments.
>
> Hey, if every car driver like yourself was not "being stupid", they
wouldn't
> have any accidents or get any tickets?? This describes you, right????
>
> And you still use a DOS tool, gee let's sit at your feet and learn about
the
> world of computers......NOT!!
>
> Just because you are the anti-capitalist liberal who doesn't like the fact
> that companies can (gasp!!) MAKE MONEY selling AV software doesn't mean it
> isn't meaningful. What you do on your little home system has no relevance
to
> what is needed to keep major networks running smoothly.
>
> Some of the biggest headaches that my desktop/network support guys have
are
> not from what you call the "stupid" users (who actually follow
directions),
> but from the young smart-ass users like yourself who think that, since
they
> install their own hardware and software at home, they "know it all" and
that
> they know how their desktop/laptop "should" be configured!!
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Noah South III
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 6:08 PM
> To: SHOTimes-Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- viri scaner ....................was (computer
> stuf)
>
>
> Ok I let this thread go long enough and no ones said this. Virus
Protectors
> are for people that do stupid things like run suspicious executables.
They
> seriously slow your machine down if they're protecting anything. You
should
> realize that they scan EVERY DAMN EXECUTIBLE before it is run, unless
> they're set in scan all mode, and then they scan EVERY SINGLE FILE
ACCESSED.
> Just think how much this slows your computer down?
>
> "Oh but I have a 2.4 Athlon, it can't slow that down." Yes it can and it
> does. Turn that stupid program off for a day and then see how much faster
> things launch or load files. A virus protector is unnecessary if you're
not
> being stupid. The reason companies have virus protectors on all of their
> computers is because the IT guys realized it would save them a whole lot
of
> headache if they just prevented the stupid users from infecting their
> computers. At all the local universities and colleges there are virus
> protectors on the machines......I wonder why? There is a place for virus
> protectors........on a computer that is going to be used by someone who
> doesn't really use computers.
>
> Someone also said something about their virus protector having a boot
sector
> virus scanning.................um, I haven't seen a BIOS since the early
90s
> that didn't have built in boot sector virus scanning.....oh wait, that's
> free and built in to your computer regardless of OS.
>
> Let me lay this down real simple-like. If you can resist opening random
> files found online, or are competent enough to use a virus scanner to
> selectively scan suspicious files, then you have NO need for a virus
> protector as all it will do is slow you and your system down. If you have
> no idea what I'm talking about and worry about getting a virus, go ahead
get
> a virus protector you'll need one.
>
> Lastly, someone else said something in regards to the anti-virus companies
> scare tactics. That's what they are kids, scare tactics. Do you all have
> even the FAINTEST clue as to how big the AV industry is? Realize that
> McAffee is in just about EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL in this country that has
> computers in it. They get paid a license fee for EACH computer their
> software gets installed on. How many computers are there total in all the
> schools in this country..................get the picture? It's in their
> best interest to hype up the fear of viri and get the system to buy into
it.
> It's more geek technobabble designed to scare the unknowing into spending
> money.
>
> Anyway, you want a REAL anti-virus, go get F-Prot for DOS. It's FREE, and
> because it's for DOS it can be run from the command line after booting
with
> an emergency boot disk (incase a virus is responsible for your OS not
> booting). It's also about twice as fast as any windows based virus
scanner.
>
> -Noah South III
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