In a message dated 11/24/2003 2:36:19 PM Central Standard Time, bmalach1@nycap.rr.com writes: 93 Green MTX - black interior...a turd with wheels right now That kind of talk won't make her very happy.....somewhere down the road apiece it'll come back and slap 'ya! Although a friend of mine used to kick his Volvo daily and that car never had a problem...other than dents. Bob