[Shotimes] Fixed my A/C!
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Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:06:41 -0400
Yeah, but after living there for 6 years, I know the shortcuts!:}
Larry E
97 Red
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In a message dated 10/3/2003 9:46:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Kirk.doucette@verizon.net writes:
>
>
> Ill race you there
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark Nunnally
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:29 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Fixed my A/C!
>
> Hawaii
>
> mark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
> To: "Christian Andretta" <passport@optonline.net>; <stevetatro@att.net>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Fixed my A/C!
>
>
> > Find that place and let me know
> >
> > Kirk J Doucette
> > NESHOC President
> > Stormtrooper-97 White
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Christian Andretta
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:19 AM
> > To: Kirk Doucette; stevetatro@att.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Fixed my A/C!
> >
> > Slightly warmer here. It makes me wish I really did move to Atlanta.
> >
> > I need a place that is btw 70 and 85 year round. If I want snow I'll go
> to
> > Denver for two weeks in the winter.
> >
> > Christian Andretta
> > 99 SF
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kirk Doucette
> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:01 PM
> > To: stevetatro@att.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Fixed my A/C!
> >
> >
> > A bit late in the season :) its 42 degrees here right now
> >
> > Kirk J Doucette
> > NESHOC President
> > Stormtrooper-97 White
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Steve Tatro
> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:52 PM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Shotimes] Fixed my A/C!
> >
> > As you may recall, my a/c was having problems, and I suspected a bad
> > compressor.
> >
> > Had decided to replace the compressor/clutch, the accumulator, the orifice
> > tube/liquid line, and convert to R-134a.
> >
> > A co-worker of mine is taking auto mechanic classes at a local technical
> > college, and he offered me the opportunity to work there, since there are
> > R-12 recovery machines, R-134a machines, lifts, tools, etc. Also, one of
> > his instructors would be around if any problems arose.
> >
> > So, yesterday was the big day. We got started about 9:00am. Keep in mind
> > that neither me nor my friend knows absolutely anything about a/c systems
> > ;^). It took us about 4 hours to evacuate the system and get everything
> > torn apart. Removed the battery and tray, alternator (so the compressor
> > could come out the top like the repair manual said), belt, idle pulley,
> > accumulator and line, liquid line, and compressor (those nuts/studs are
> near
> > impossible to get tools on).
> >
> > We took a 2-hour break so he could attend class (which was in the same big
> > shop). I tagged along so I could see what they were learning. There was
> > some Civic that wouldn't run, apparently had very little compression on a
> > cylinder.
> >
> > We then got his instructor to give us some direction, figured out how much
> > oil and R-134a we needed to put in (and where). The instructor then
> looked
> > at my compressor/clutch on the table, and gave it a whirl. He shocked me
> > when he said "I think your compressor is fine, it's just your clutch
> that's
> > toast". He explained the melted rubbery substance was probably from an
> > incorrect clutch gap creating too much heat, melting the rubbery part. I
> > told him about my clutch gap difficulties of last summer, when I
> eventually
> > removed the smaller of the shims (which seems to be a popular course of
> > action). He said I may have brought these troubles on myself, so I gave
> > myself one good kick in the arse. Since I had a brand new compressor
> > sitting there and the one I had taken out looked like hell and has 171k
> > miles on it, I decided I'd just put the new one in. C'est la vie.
> >
> > We took a one-hour lunch break (when I got to drive my buddy's S2000...fun
> > little car!) and bought a new accessory belt from NAPA. Mine looked
> pretty
> > bad, although it probably wasn't that close to failing.
> >
> > Anyway, we got back and started to reassemble. First we put brand new
> > o-rings and spring locks everywhere. Poured half the oil required into
> the
> > compressor, and bolted it into place. Attached the liquid line. Put the
> > rest of the required oil in the accumulator and installed it and the line
> > (man is that a pain trying to fish that big tube into place).
> >
> > Since I was converting, we had to put the adapter fittings on both the
> high
> > and low sides. No problem, although the high side (front of the car)
> sticks
> > up and is probably closer to the hood than I would like!
> >
> > Got the alternator and new belt put on, battery and tray reinstalled, and
> > fired it up. Started just fine!
> >
> > Shut it off to put the R-134a in. It was so nice not having to use the
> > little cans, rather having a large machine which measures exactly how much
> > you want to put in!
> >
> > Started the car, went to MAX A/C and watched the high and low pressures.
> > Everything was normal, and ice cold air was coming out the vents! The
> > clutch kept the compressor engaged just like it should. Job completed at
> > 8:00pm. That's 11 hours minus the 3 hours of screwing around...8 hours of
> > actually working!
> >
> > Sure, that's a long time. I'm just glad it's done, and I was able to
> learn
> > something in the process. With each completed job I'm less and less
> scared
> > of working on cars. Besides, I have an estimate for $1400 to do the same
> > job from the dealer. I spent about $400 on brand new parts and a retrofit
> > kit.
> >
> > Anyway, moral of the story is this: When your clutch is acting up it may
> be
> > worth the few $$$ it costs to buy a new clutch assembly and install it.
> The
> > shim removal should be considered a temporary patch, with
> the realization
> > that it may cause you additional headache down the road!
> >
> > That's all.
> >
> > Oh, did I mention the S2000? Fun little car ;^)
> >
> > Steve Tatro
> > Red/Black '93 with 171k miles
> > Cincinnati, Ohio
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