http://www.shoforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001539 He usually sells them on ebay for $45, but I don't see any listed now. Eric "what's wrong with a stick" Keller __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com