[Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe

[Ron Porter]

You can also get Borla XS Turbo stainless steel mufflers for $85 here:

http://www.exhaustproslinc.com/bortur.html

The Bullets and Borlas may sound great on a V8 SHO, but the V6 is totally
different. The resonator is the key to cut out the rasp. That being the
case, IMHO all turbo-type mufflers end up sounding about the same on a V6,
the only difference is if you get straight-through glasspacks or something.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nimz [mailto:niks@dialnetwork.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:34 AM
To: Ron Porter; 'Eric Keller'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe


If you want Mufflers that don't rust and sound great get Bullet mufflers.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Eric Keller'" <unterhausen@yahoo.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe


> The Summit Turbos are fine. Sure, they may only last 2-3 years in the salt
> belt, but you can also spend $75 on a Dynomax muffler that also rusts out
in
> 2-3 years. Nothing wrong with them. So what if you have to have them
> replaced every now & then? I had Thrush Turbos ($16/apiece, like the
> Summits) on my '99, and they were in fine shape after 1.5 years up here in
> Detroit. The car has been in Louisville for the last two years, but those
> mufflers are now 3.5 years old.
>
> The trick is to get the biggest, fattest resonator/glasspack welded in
that
> will fit, or even get a couple welded in that space (where the stock
> resonator is at). My former '95 had VERY cheap glasspacks for mufflers,
but
> with a fat resonator I had NO rasp at all.
>
> There's nothing "custom" about installing those mufflers on a SHO.....any
> muffler shop can do it. And basically, assuming you get a bigger resonator
> for $20-30, the labor for the resonator and muffler installation should be
> easily under $100. If not, shop around.
>
> Don't need a 3" pipe. Others may disagree, but I agree on keeping the
donut.
> You can buy a lot of $7 NAPA donuts for the cost of a flex pipe and
getting
> it installed. Just make sure to get the correct donut:
>
> FELPRO: 60641
> NAPA: 31372
> FORD: E6DZ-5E241-A
>
> Which is kind of a "cone" donut, and not a traditional exhaust donut.
>
> You must have a Gen 1 with the downturned pipes? Any muffler shop can
> replicate that with pipe if you want. That is not "custom" work.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Eric Keller
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:33 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe
>
>
> I still have the stock mufflers on after 13 years, and
> they have finally started to rust through
>
> I called the muffler shop today to set up an
> appointment to have them put on my Summit Turbos.  He
> wasn't happy about my choice of mufflers.  I picked
> them because the shoforum guys seem to like them, and
> they were so cheap I didn't have to think twice about
> it.  In fact, they were so cheap I might get another
> kind of muffler and forget about them.  I was just
> going to have the summits installed onto the stock
> tailpipe.
>
>
>   The muffler guy said they would be rusted in a year.
>  That only bothers me because I would have to talk to
> this guy next year.  I have had previous dealings with
> these guys, and they are competent.  Otherwise, I
> woulda hung up on the guy, he was a jerk.  They're the
> only people around that advertise custom muffler
> installation.
>
> He also seemed to think that a flex pipe would cause
> vibration, and recommended that I keep the donut seal
> and hope that it doesn't fall apart again.
>
>
> They advertise that they install 3" exhaust systems.
> Is there a respectable purpose for such a thing, or do
> you just put one on your 1500cc honda to get that
> lovely buzzing sound?
>
> Should I junk the Summits and get a better muffler?
> What muffler? Also, I was trying to find a 2 1/4
> tailpipe that bent down like the stock one, and didn't
> whistle or sound like a train.  Wooo-Wooo.
>
> Eric "but I do like trains" Keller
>
>
>
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