[Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe

[Ron Porter]

When I had the Turbo Tube (which didn't look like any of the Turbo Tubes
that I found online!) in the '95, the straight-through glasspacks were
fine.....which would normally be the loudest things that you could put on a
car short of straight pipes. This was a very fat resonator, and it was as
long as it could be to fit in the available space.

Yes, you can tell the different sound of the mufflers IF the resonator is
stock or the small Dynomax or SHO Shop type. Unfortunately, it seems that
anything but the stock mufflers will rasp with any of these resonators.

What happens is that, with enough resonator on the car, the unique sounds
from muffler-to-muffler seem to go away. IMHO, my '95 with the glasspacks
was about the best-sounding V6 SHO that I had heard.

Actually, for a loud sound that sounds great in parking decks as it sets off
every car alarm, the Edelbrock RPMs do sound pretty good, but are also raspy
with the SHO Shop resonator. It might be interesting to try them with a big
resonator, but I suspect that the resonator will tame them down so that they
are indistinguishable from any other muffler.

Basic bottom line is that the V6 SHO is like the V10 Viper in this regard.
You can never get them to sound great, you can just get them to sound less
offensive!

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:55 AM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe


I have had several different mufflers on my '89 and from my 
experience the type of muffler makes a LOT of difference!

Yes, as I mentioned, and as Ron correctly states, the 
resonator is critical for reducing the raspy sound (can't be 
gotten rid of entirely though), but beyond that the mufflers 
make a lot of difference.

Borlas usually sound almost stock.  Flowmasters sound like 
an echo chamber and loud.  Edelbrock mufflers  are WAY loud 
and annoying for most people.

A simple oval true turbo muffler gives the best and deepest 
sound for my ear, but then there are people that love the 
huge straight through "ricer" sound, or the way loud 
Edelbrock sound.

My '89 has generic turbo's that a lot of people love.  My 
'91 has a set of, I think, Thrush Turbo's on it that sound 
totally different from my other mufflers including dynomax. 
  I suspect the Bullets would sound great on the V6 as they 
are a typical turbo style.

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:
> It needs to be made clear that the Bullets and others sound great on the
> "V8" SHO engine.
> 
> The V6 is a TOTALLY different animal. From what I've heard on V6 SHOs over
> the years, it doesn't really matter what mufflers that you have on a V6 as
> long as you have enough resonator to kill the rasp. With a big-enough
> resonator, even the $5 glasspacks that I had on my '95 sounded good!
> 
> The Edelbrock mufflers that the SHO Shop sells with their catbacks are
nice
> mufflers, but they also need bigger resonators than the SS provides.
> 
> Ron Porter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:01 AM
> To: Eric Keller
> Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] muffler shops and flex pipe
> 
> 
> Eric,
> 
> I liked Paul's Bullet mufflers so much that I became a 
> dealer for them through my DC CarCare business 
> http://www.dccarcare.com
> 
> I sell them for $60 each, they are full stainless full turbo 
> mufflers, you don't want the type that just go straight 
> through, they are too loud for most people.  They are also 
> highly polished.  Will look great for years if you take care 
> of them.  If welded on, have the welder cover the mufflers 
> so weld splatter doesn't get on them and look bad.
> 
> These have a great deep tone that has not changed in years 
> on my V8 SHO and on Paul's V8.  Should sound just as good on 
> a V6.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
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