[Shotimes] question #4 of 4 - suspension

Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:11:53 -0400

If it was flushed prior to storage, I don't see what the issue would be. One
of the purposes of coolant is to resolve issues with dissimilar metals.
FWIW, I would think that there's a greater issue with coolant going through
hot/cold cycles for 18 months than it is just sitting. Remember that
everything on the engine side of the radiator cap is sealed and should have
no air in it, so theoretically nothing will happen.

There are probably SHOs running around that haven't had the coolant flushed
for 5-10 (or more) years, and I have not heard of any coolant-related SHO
issues.

IMHO, other than the battery running down, and possibly the gas going bad
(and dry-rot tires after a really LONG storage), I don't believe that any
other items on a well-maintained car should have any more issues after 18
months than they would have after sitting for two weeks.

After having stored the Fiero GT for a year, it had a slight coolant leak in
the hoses that connect the front radiator to the (mid) engine, and the RR
caliper leaked slightly when we had to move it on/off the moving van. It's
now been stored for 4+ years. It will be interesting to see what transpires
when I fire it up next year. I also have stored motorcycles over the winter
for years, and I usually put the 911 up for 6 months, although this year it
was for 9.5 months. Everything was fine on it when I brought it to life over
Labor Day.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Ron Porter; 'Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] question #4 of 4 - suspension

Ron,

I see your point about the oil since it's just sitting in the pan, but the
coolant has been touching Aluminum and Iron for 18 months.  That's a bad
thing, no?

Jim Ryan
Wayne, NJ
'91 PLUS - all white/mocha with fiberglass hood, rod shifter, & rear spoiler

255 Lph fuel pump, SHO Shop can & horn, 80mm MAF, S&B cone filter, SHO Shop
HiFlow Y-pipe & cat-back exhaust, SHO Shop LPM, SHO Shop underdrive pulleys,
SHO Shop HiRevs Jr clutch & steel billet LiteWeight flywheel, reinforced
engine & trans mounts, SHO Shop TQ limiters, SHO NUT aluminum SFBs, FPS '96
SHO front brakes, Carbotech F brake pads, Nook's full-body SFCs, Koni adj
struts, SHO Shop linear springs, 24mm FSB, 26mm RSB, SHO Shop steel f&r
STBs, Bridgestone Potenza RE-730 225/55-16, CATZ MSP fog lights, police
grille

>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:35 AM
>To: 'Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net'
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] question #4 of 4 - suspension
>
>
>If the gas is rough, you could also dump in a gallon or two or toluene or
>benzene to help it. IIRC, there are some other folks on this list that have
>used stuff like this that can fill in the details.
>
>Not that changing the oil is a big deal, but I don't see the need to do
>it........assuming that you did an oil change prior to storing the car
>(which is really the time to do it). Nothing happens to oil in a car that
>just sits.
>
>Really the same thing with a cooling system flush. The time to do it is
>before a car gets stored.
>
>FWIW, I will be changing the oil in my wife's Del Sol soon. It has about 4K
>miles on it, and it was last changed in October 2000. When the car IS
>driven, it is driven far enough to get things hot....it's just that it sits
>for a LONG time between drives.
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of James F. Ryan III
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:28 AM
>To: alfitz@alfitz.com; Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] question #4 of 4 - suspension
>
>
>>turpentine and they still ran. You said that your SHO has been sitting for
>>over a year? I wouldn't worry at all about cranking it up, AFTER
>you change
>>the oil.
>
>Oil change was the first thing I did then I drained and refilled the
>radiator.  Once it's running I'll do a proper cooling system flush.
>
>It would be a shame to throw away 16-17 gals of gas (I wouldn't know where
>to dispose of it anyway), but if it won't fire up I'd like to eliminate bad
>fuel as a suspect.  I will try and fire it up with the old gas first.
>
>Thanks, Al.
>
>
>
>Jim Ryan
>Wayne, NJ
>'91 PLUS  all white/mocha with fiberglass hood, rod shifter, &
>rear spoiler
>
>255 Lph fuel pump, SHO Shop can & horn, 80mm MAF, S&B cone filter, SHO Shop
>HiFlow Y-pipe & cat-back exhaust, SHO Shop LPM, SHO Shop
>underdrive pulleys,
>SHO Shop HiRevs Jr clutch & steel billet LiteWeight flywheel, reinforced
>engine & trans mounts, SHO Shop TQ limiters, SHO NUT aluminum SFBs, FPS 96
>SHO front brakes, Carbotech F brake pads, Nooks full-body SFCs, Koni adj
>struts, SHO Shop linear springs, 24mm FSB, 26mm RSB, SHO Shop steel f&r
>STBs, Bridgestone Potenza RE-730 225/55-16, CATZ MSP fog lights, police
>grille
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: alfitz@alfitz.com [mailto:alfitz@alfitz.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:47 PM
>>To: James F. Ryan III
>>Cc: *_SHOTIMES II
>>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] question #4 of 4 - suspension
>>
>>
>>We sometimes get cars in that haven't run in over two years and we just
>>start them up. Dirty fuel or stale fuel won't stop them from running,
>>although it could clog an injector, they usually clean themselves up after
>>you put in some clean fuel. We've had SHOs that the fuel just smelled like
>>turpentine and they still ran. You said that your SHO has been sitting for
>>over a year? I wouldn't worry at all about cranking it up, AFTER
>you change
>>the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>>Al Fitz
>>http://www.alfitz.com
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "James F. Ryan III" <jryan@multitechmail.com>
>>To: "Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net" <shotimes@autox.team.net>;
>"TechSHO@topica.
>>com" <TechSHO@topica.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:20 PM
>>Subject: [Shotimes] question #4 of 4 - suspension
>>
>>
>>> This one is scary.  I had the usual thumping noises, from those
>crappy ES
>>> bushings, each time I went over a bump.  Periodically, I would crawl
>>> underneath and shake the rear asb and I could see that the bushings were
>>> slightly loose around the bar.  But, the brackets were still mounted to
>>the
>>> body!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to http://www.photoisland.com
>>>
>>> Log In ID:  av8r567@optonline.net
>>> Password:  12345
>>>
>>> Then select the "Suspension" album.  (1 picture)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jim Ryan
>>> Wayne, NJ
>>> '91 PLUS  all white/mocha with fiberglass hood, rod shifter, & rear
>>spoiler
>>>
>>> 255 Lph fuel pump, SHO Shop can & horn, 80mm MAF, S&B cone filter, SHO
>>Shop
>>> HiFlow Y-pipe & cat-back exhaust, SHO Shop LPM, SHO Shop underdrive
>>pulleys,
>>> SHO Shop HiRevs Jr clutch & steel billet LiteWeight flywheel, reinforced
>>> engine & trans mounts, SHO Shop TQ limiters, SHO NUT aluminum SFBs, FPS
>>96
>>> SHO front brakes, Carbotech F brake pads, Nooks full-body
>SFCs, Koni adj
>>> struts, SHO Shop linear springs, 24mm FSB, 26mm RSB, SHO Shop steel f&r
>>> STBs, Bridgestone Potenza RE-730 225/55-16, CATZ MSP fog lights, police
>>> grille
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