[Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires

[Lewis]

I'm with paul that the 712's are a decent tire.  I was behind him for a
couple hard laps at Summit.  I have the 712's and they hold up well.  Not as
much grip as I would like, but for the price you can't beat them.  Although,
I don't think I'll buy them again because I want a little more grip.  The
Summitomo HTRZII's I had before were better in the dry but did not last very
long.  Not sure what I will go with in the future.

Will Lewis
91+ white
95 mtx red

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:47 AM
To: Ron Porter; 'Kirk Doucette'; 1badsho@mail.tnh.net;
shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires


I have the Kumhos 712 245/45/16s, and at Summit Point could not get them to
break lose (once I learned how to drive).  IMHO they are a great track tire,
one of the first silica based tires, excellent in rain, no good below 40F
but I had a very difficult time balancing them.  I got about 20k on them.  I
also have the Nitto 450s (225/50/16).  Again IMHO this is a great highway
and everyday use tire.  Good in the rain, rides nice, no balance problems,
usable all year (but not a snow tire), good at the strip and very good, even
wear.

I am at the point where I need new tires for the '97 and I probably will go
with the Nittos.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Kirk Doucette'" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>; <1badsho@mail.tnh.net>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires


> I beg to differ. From my experience, and others who did the track, the
> ES100s ROCK. The are great tires that happen to be inexpensive.....as
> opposed to "great tires for the money".
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Kirk Doucette
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:19 PM
> To: 1badsho@mail.tnh.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires
>
>
> They are the best in that sub 100 price range, they easily are comparable
> with the Firehawks. Fire hawks, Goodyear F1 and the Pole Postion are the
> best tires if you have blood to sell
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Donelson Don
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:33 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires
>
> list
>
>
> I took don McK.. advice and got the Kumho tires(712's i think ) at tire
rack
> for $87 a tire.
>
> For the money ... didnt think i could beat it .. maybe not the best tire
but
> for a every day driver it should do ..
>
> dond
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
> Date:  Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:46:49 -0500
>
> >So, to change the subject (a little) in 225/55-16 size the Kumho712s are
> $75
> >each, the Yoko ES100s are $87 each, the Sumitomo HTR Z are $79 each.
> >
> >Any votes for which way to go?  I need to replace the very worn out
Dunlop
> >SP8000's on my slicers.
> >
> >Dave
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark Nunnally" <manunnal@netheaven.com>
> >To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: September 15, 2003 11:29 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires
> >
> >
> >> > Yoko ES100: $111 (I like mine a lot!)
> >> >
> >> > There's also a flock of tires in the $150 range, like KDWs, AVS
Sports,
> >> SZ50
> >> > EPs, etc. IMHO, for the money, the Nitto 450s, MXs, and the ES100s
are
> >> great
> >> > tires that sell for a great price, plus they all have good-looking
> tread
> >> > patterns.
> >>
> >> The ES100's are WAY better (on the SHO anyway) than the Nitto 450's.  I

> >have
> >> the 450's on my 89 (use them as street tires, to and from the track).
> >they
> >> are real smooth, easy to balance, and wear like they are made out of
> iron.
> >> I got a lot of miles on mine and they still look new.  they don't have
a
> >lot
> >> of grip though.
> >>
> >> don't have any wear experience with the ES100's yet (still pretty new)
> but
> >> the grip is way more than the 450's, and the yoko's are smooth and
quiet.
> >>
> >> mark
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