[Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires
ianf@eden.rutgers.edu
ianf@eden.rutgers.edu
Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT)
I had the 7000SS on slicers on my 94. They wore quickly and had bad
grip no matter what. They are also not made by Pirelli either (just
badged as such)
Bottom line: Don't get them.
Ryan; I noticed that you were looking to get 215/60/16's. I'd recommend
getting 225/50's or at least 225/55.
Ian
> I have had Nitto 450 and Pirelli P7000SS (both in size 235/45-17) on
8" rims. Nitto's have poor grip and handle exceptionally bad on wet
roads. P7000SS is much better in both respects. The bad news a about
the 7000's is that they become exceeding noisy as they wear down. I can
not recommend either of these tires.
>
>
> 94MTX,green,BOS+
>
> --- On Tue 09/16, Paul Nimz < niks@dialnetwork.com > wrote:
> From: Paul Nimz [mailto: niks@dialnetwork.com]
> To: ronporter@prodigy.net, Kirk.doucette@verizon.net,
1badsho@mail.tnh.net, shotimes@autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:46:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires
>
> I have the Kumhos 712 245/45/16s, and at Summit Point could not get
them to<br>break lose (once I learned how to drive). IMHO they are a
great track tire,<br>one of the first silica based tires, excellent in
rain, no good below 40F<br>but I had a very difficult time balancing
them. I got about 20k on them. I<br>also have the Nitto 450s
(225/50/16). Again IMHO this is a great highway<br>and everyday use
tire. Good in the rain, rides nice, no balance problems,<br>usable all
year (but not a snow tire), good at the strip and very good,
even<br>wear.<br><br>I am at the point where I need new tires for
the '97 and I probably will go<br>with the Nittos.<br><br>Paul
Nimz<br>'97 TR<br>'93 EG mtx<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----
<br>From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net><br>To: "'Kirk Doucette'"
<Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>;
<1badsho@mail.tnh.net>;<br><shotimes@autox.team.net><br>Sent: Monday,
September 15, 2003 5:35 PM<br>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17
tires<br><br>!
> <br>> I beg to differ. From my experience, and others who did the
track, the<br>> ES100s ROCK. The are great tires that happen to be
inexpensive.....as<br>> opposed to "great tires for the
money".<br>><br>> Ron Porter<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>>
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-
admin@autox.team.net]<br>> On Behalf Of Kirk Doucette<br>> Sent:
Monday, September 15, 2003 6:19 PM<br>> To: 1badsho@mail.tnh.net;
shotimes@autox.team.net<br>> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17
tires<br>><br>><br>> They are the best in that sub 100 price range,
they easily are comparable<br>> with the Firehawks. Fire hawks,
Goodyear F1 and the Pole Postion are the<br>> best tires if you have
blood to sell<br>><br>> Kirk J Doucette<br>> NESHOC President<br>>
Stormtrooper-97 White<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:
shotimes-admin@autox.team.net<br>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On<br>> Behalf Of Donelson Don<br>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003
3:33!
> PM<br>> To: shotimes@autox.team.net<br>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes]
235x45x17 tires<br>><br>> list<br>><br>><br>> I took don McK.. advice
and got the Kumho tires(712's i think ) at tire<br>rack<br>> for $87 a
tire.<br>><br>> For the money ... didnt think i could beat it .. maybe
not the best tire<br>but<br>> for a every day driver it should
do ..<br>><br>> dond<br>><br>> ---------- Original Message -------------
---------------------<br>> From: "Dave Kegel"
<d.kegel@comcast.net><br>> Reply-To: "Dave Kegel"
<d.kegel@comcast.net><br>> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:46:49 -
0500<br>><br>> >So, to change the subject (a little) in 225/55-16 size
the Kumho712s are<br>> $75<br>> >each, the Yoko ES100s are $87 each,
the Sumitomo HTR Z are $79 each.<br>> ><br>> >Any votes for which way
to go? I need to replace the very worn out<br>Dunlop<br>> >SP8000's on
my slicers.<br>> ><br>> >Dave<br>> >----- Original Message -----<br>>
>From: "Mark Nunnally" <manunnal@netheaven.com><br>> >To: <shotimes!
> @autox.team.net><br>> >Sent: September 15, 2003 11:29 AM<br>>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> > Yoko
ES100: $111 (I like mine a lot!)<br>> >> ><br>> >> > There's also a
flock of tires in the $150 range, like KDWs, AVS<br>Sports,<br>> >>
SZ50<br>> >> > EPs, etc. IMHO, for the money, the Nitto 450s, MXs, and
the ES100s<br>are<br>> >> great<br>> >> > tires that sell for a great
price, plus they all have good-looking<br>> tread<br>> >> >
patterns.<br>> >><br>> >> The ES100's are WAY better (on the SHO
anyway) than the Nitto 450's. I<br>> >have<br>> >> the 450's on my 89
(use them as street tires, to and from the track).<br>> >they<br>> >>
are real smooth, easy to balance, and wear like they are made out
of<br>> iron.<br>> >> I got a lot of miles on mine and they still look
new. they don't have<br>a<br>> >lot<br>> >> of grip though.<br>>
>><br>> >> don't have any wear experience with the ES100's yet (still
pretty new)<br>> but<br>> >> the grip is !
> way more than the 450's, and the yoko's are smooth and<br>quiet.<br>>
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