[Shotimes] Re: 450's

[Ron Porter]

One thing to keep in mind is that ANY all-season tire is just not gonna have
the dry & wet grip of a summer tire. Too many compromises in tire compound
for that. Any all-season tire must be evaluated with that in mind.

The best solution is a summer-only tire, and another set of rims/tires for
winter.

BTW, I doubt the GY GAs will handle better....they are really mushball
tires. Squealing at the track doesn't always translate to a lower
performance!

The 450s have a 300 treadwear, which is the highest that I ever consider in
buying a tire.....I would rather have something in the 180-250 range. You
can't get something for nothing....higher treadware numbers will drop
performance. Although, the tire makers are getting better at compounds, so
tires like the KDWS, which have around a 400 treadwear IIRC, don't do too
bad....but it is still an a/s tire. 

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Nunnally
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:30 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shotimes] Re: 450's


> It's interesting to see the polarized views about Nitto 450 traction
abilities.  Perhaps the Nittos behave differently on a >RWD 911 than they do
on a FWD SHO?

Could be.  I have 225/55 16's on 6" slicers (not ideal I know) maybe they
would do a little better on a 7 or 7.5" rim, but on my 89 (in terms of grip)
they suck!  They remind me of the "H" rated Pirelli P4000's I had on the car
back in the 90's when I was at college.  The generic 215/60 GY GA or
whatever the heck walmart sells on my wife's 91 have way more grip than the
450's do!