[Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires

Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:15:36 -0400

In thinking about it some more, yeah, that is probably true (although a
number of SHO folks have liked their 450s). Taking into account vehicle
weight, suspension design, etc, as well as driving techniques and
expectations, tire choice is probably as subjective as the discussion that
we had on sway bar sizes awhile back.

My take is that, unless there is a unanimous opinion that a certain tire
sucks, YMMV.

Much like the Firestone GTA 02s that I had on the '95. The Tire Rack survey
responses are not kind, but I was happy with the tires for what they were.
What is interesting in the Tire Rack surveys is that you will get two people
who have the same car and they have wildly divergent opinions!

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:molsen@excite.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:10 PM
To: ronporter@prodigy.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires

It's interesting to see the polarized views about Nitto 450 traction
abilities.  Perhaps the Nittos behave differently on a RWD 911 than they do
on a FWD SHO?

94MTX,green,BOS+

 --- On Tue 09/16, Ron Porter < ronporter@prodigy.net > wrote:
From: Ron Porter [mailto: ronporter@prodigy.net]
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:55:35 -0400
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires

There have been a number of people using the 712s (on the 911 list
also), and they have various good & bad points, but the key thing seems
to be that they are truly summer-only tires. In the summer-only realm,
there have been, and currently are, tires that are very good for that
usage and in that price range (under $100). I will be interested
to see how the Nittos do when they wear down more (which may take years
on the 911), but I also found them to be very good in heavy rain, and I
have had the car out on cold, clear days and they felt fine in 30-degree
weather. If I only had one set of wheels and had to live with one set of
tires year-round on the SHO, I would go with the Nittos also. Ron
Porter -----Original Message----- From: Paul Nimz
[mailto:niks@dialnetwork.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:47
AM To: Ron Porter; 'Kirk Doucette';
1badsho@mail.tnh.net; shotimes@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shotimes]
235x45x17 tires I have the Kumhos 712 245/45/16s, and at Summit
Point could not get them to break lose (once I learned how to drive).
IMHO they are a great track tire, one of the first silica based tires,
excellent in rain, no good below 40F but I had a very difficult time
balancing them. I got about 20k on them. I also have the Nitto 450s
(225/50/16). Again IMHO this is a great highway and everyday use tire.
Good in the rain, rides nice, no balance problems, usable all year (but
not a snow tire), good at the strip and very good, even wear. I am
at the point where I need new tires for the '97 and I probably will
go with the Nittos. Paul Nimz '97 TR '93 EG
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