[Shotimes] cutting vent holes in the header panel

Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:28:17 -0400

Don, I guess not living in an "car town", you don't understand. There is a
HUGE difference when Ford (or any auto mfr) employees are involved.

The average Ford employee gets the "A" & "B" Plans, which gives them the
best deal that anyone can get.....and many of them buy cars every 1-2 years.

Ford management gets the company cars, and some.....like my two Ford
buddies.....get two a year, then with special deals they each have gotten a
3rd car for their teenage daughters. When my buddy was getting SHOs, they
"made" him get two '98 & '99 SHOs (6 months each), as they had to keep the
line going when nobody wanted them. All of the Company Exec" cars that go
through the auctions were most likely from Detroit, followed by Louisville.

GM and Chrysler are the same way. I live about 10 miles north of the D-C
headquarters, and my subdivision is crawling with Chrysler folks. I saw the
first PT Cruiser and new Viper on the road right in my subdivision. When the
300M first came out, I'll bet that I saw every possible color/trim/wheel
option combo within the first 6 months.

People from outside the area have told me that they Detroit area has the
lowest percentage of import cars of anywhere they have been.....and I truly
believe that it's true.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:59 PM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: 'Shotimes'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cutting vent holes in the header panel

Ford sells as well here as it does anywhere in the nation.

Don't forget that Peoria is the quintessential "average" city!

  Yes, if a big plant is located in a town, chances are the 
mix will be skewed just a little, but it won't be a huge 
difference.

Still, we had a lot of Taurus police cars, and you say there 
were none wherever you have lived?  So I guess Washington, 
IL (and most of Central Illinois) WAS a hotbed of Ford 
sedans!  :)

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:
> Washington IL is probably not a hotbed for Ford sedans.
> 
> Detroit and Louisville (which have Ford facilities and lots of Ford
> employees) are.
> 
> Ron Porter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:03 PM
> To: 'Shotimes'
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cutting vent holes in the header panel
> 
> 
> And I have never seen any non-police Tauri with the grill 
> other than SHO's!  Seen lots of police cars in the day when 
> they were actively used.  NEVER seen a wagon with the police 
> grill.
> 
> Seems funny that the distribution would be so uneven.
> 
> Don Mallinson
> 
> Ron Porter wrote:
> 
>>I seem to have seen at least as many wagons with the grill as sedans. One
>>particularly ugly one was a rusty gold wagon, and the grill was about the
>>best piece on the car!!
>>
>>Ron Porter 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>>On Behalf Of James F. Ryan III
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:38 AM
>>To: Donald Mallinson; Shotimes
>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] cutting vent holes in the header panel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I would put good money that there are almost NO "heavy Duty
>>>Cooling" Tauri out there, but a LOT of POlice and taxi versions.
>>
>>
>>The woman that delivers my morning paper used to drive a Taurus wagon with
>>the "slotted grille".  I doubt she installed it for the looks.  She now
>>drives an Explorer.  If I see her I'll ask her about the wagon.  I've only
>>seen one Taurus police car in NJ.  It was an unmarked detective's car and
> 
> it
> 
>>was dark brown, had black painted steel wheels, dual tail pipes, and the
>>"slotted grille".
>>
>>
>>Jim Ryan
>>Wayne, NJ
>>'91 PLUS - all white/mocha with fiberglass hood, rod shifter, & rear
> 
> spoiler
> 
>>255 Lph fuel pump, SHO Shop can & horn, 80mm MAF, S&B cone filter, SHO
> 
> Shop
> 
>>HiFlow Y-pipe & cat-back exhaust, SHO Shop LPM, SHO Shop underdrive
> 
> pulleys,
> 
>>SHO Shop HiRevs Jr clutch & steel billet LiteWeight flywheel, reinforced
>>engine & trans mounts, SHO Shop TQ limiters, SHO NUT aluminum SFBs, FPS
> 
> '96
> 
>>SHO front brakes, Carbotech F brake pads, Nook's full-body SFCs, Koni adj
>>struts, SHO Shop linear springs, 24mm FSB, 26mm RSB, SHO Shop steel f&r
>>STBs, Bridgestone Potenza RE-730 225/55-16, CATZ MSP fog lights, police
>>grille
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>>>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
>>>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:39 PM
>>>To: Shotimes
>>>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] cutting vent holes in the header panel
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron,
>>>
>>>Yep, and it WAS part of the police package, so thus not
>>>misnamed.  :)
>>>
>>>We had lots of taurus police cars in city and county use in
>>>the midwest.  Although there are few taxi's in our area, so
>>>I never saw one of those, doesn't mean they don't exist.
>>>
>>>I would put good money that there are almost NO "heavy Duty
>>>Cooling" Tauri out there, but a LOT of POlice and taxi versions.
>>>
>>>IT is named correctly.  I don't remember any definitive
>>>discussion ever that said the "police" grill is misnamed.
>>>
>>>Yes, the outer boundry layer may be pushed somewhat over the
>>>hood, but all those bugs that die in the grill and front of
>>>the bumper don't ride in on nothing other than inertia
>>>(which is part of it yes) but there is plenty of air that
>>>hits the grill at speed.  Yes it helps with flow with the
>>>fan at low speed too.
>>>
>>>Don Mallinson
>>>
>>>Ron Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Don, go in into the "wayback" machine, this was discussed years ago!!
>>>>
>>>>It is a part of the Heavy Duty Cooling Package on "any"
>>>
>>>Taurus.....the SHO
>>>
>>>
>>>>community decided to call it the "police" grill for whatever reason.
Yes,
>>>>the Taurus police cars have the HD Cooling package and therefore have
the
>>>>grill, but when I lived in Louisville (home to two Ford plants),
>>>
>>>I saw the
>>>
>>>
>>>>grill on more taxis and run-of-the-mill SLOs than any police
>>>
>>>cars (never saw
>>>
>>>
>>>>any SLO Police cars around there anyway). It was also a part of
>>>
>>>the Towing
>>>
>>>
>>>>package.
>>>>
>>>>The purpose of the grill was to aid airflow at low or "zero" speeds, as
>>>>idling in traffic, and while stressing the engine at lower-speed towing.
>>>>With the aerodynamics of the front bumper, I'll bet that it does about
>>>>nothing at speed for getting in more air, as the bumper will
>>>
>>>deflect the air
>>>
>>>
>>>>up over the hood.
>>>>
>>>>Ron Porter
>>>
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