[Shotimes] Got a problem....totally off the wall Long, so you'll have nofollow up questions

[Carl Prochilo]

Different strokes for different folks.  It always amazes that
someone could pull an engine apart and then be intimidated by
pulling the codes from the EEC or ABS system.

George, SHO course 101 is to pull the codes.  Even if you have to go
to AZ or such.   But really the procedure on Shotimes is really
painless.  Once I get the switch wired in the cabin, I'll post some
pics, but this just isn't rocket science.

If nothing else, you should get some indication of where to start
looking.

And, I'm not letting you off the hook.  Remember you told me you
never saw a CEL on your 90????   Now you're really part of the club.
 ; )
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
1992 Ultra Red Crimson

George Fourchy said:
> Hi All...
>
> Lowrider has a problem.  It doesn't seem to affect its performance,
> but if I don't
> do something about it, there might be permanent engine damage, only
> because I have
> NO idea what is happening.  Since the car is coming around the final
> turn of its
> lifespan, I don't want to ignore this problem and possibly do
> something to it that
> would require a huge amount of repairing.  I'm comparing the
> potential damage here
> to what could have happened if I hadn't caught that EGR tube back in
> '96 that had
> just sprung a leak, and was starting to melt all the cables, speedo,
> throttle, and
> cruise, due to the leaking hot exhaust gas ( I think the situation
> is
> similar....leaking hot gasses somewhere).
>
> It's been sitting for 11 months, as you know, waiting to have the
> rear third of the
> body attached and fully assembled.  It was run periodically during
> that time, for a
> few minutes every couple of weeks or so, just to keep the oil up in
> the top.  It has
> been on the road for the last week, adding another quick thousand
> miles around town
> and on the commute.  I took it to the muffler shop this morning, to
> get a new hangar
> installed in the right rear corner for the right side muffler...the
> SLO rear end
> didn't have any hangars on the right side.  After that was done, it
> was a lot
> quieter (no rattling and buzzing where the muffler was banging
> against the frame),
> and sounded more or less normal.  But then I noticed that whenever
> I'd give it any
> kind of substantial throttle, like I would if accelerating on an
> on-ramp to the
> freeway, it makes a hissing sound that I can hear above the quieter
> (now that the
> rattling exhaust is out of the picture) snarl of the engine.  (I can
> hear it in the
> garage, too...just at idle if I blip the throttle...the sound
> reflects off the wall
> and the other car next to it.)  If I stay on it in 3rd or 4th, to
> get up to cruising
> speed fast, to go directly out to the fast lane, the CE light will
> come on after 10
> or 15 seconds.  ...Yes....this is the first time the CE light has
> come on for an
> unknown reason.....so that proves it was made by humans!  That has
> happened twice,
> just today.  If I stay out of excessive throttle, the CE light
> doesn't come on, and
> if it does come on, it will go out after 5 minutes or so of gentle,
> city-street
> driving.  There is no change of performance of any kind when the
> light comes on or
> goes off.
>
> I went to the FAQ, and looked at the 2 digit codes that the '90
> computer can
> generate.  There is nothing in the codes that light up the CE light
> that would go
> along with some kind of leak of gasses (the noise I think I hear)
> that I can see.
>
> I've never had to deal with a CE light, except for the PfH, which
> was a different
> thing entirely....that was a lack of power to the computer and
> CCRM/IRCM.  So I know
> of the procedures to get the codes, but I have never done it...years
> ago I saw it
> done with the paper clip.  I'm going to get one of those code
> readers the FAQ
> recommends, unless someone else has a better recommendation.  It
> needs to go to the
> dealer anyway, to fix the keyless entry.  That quit while it was in
> my garage, for
> no reason....the fuses are good, but it is dead.  But that wasn't
> going to happen
> until the black car comes home, in 10 days or so.  And, like I said,
> I don't want to
> hurt anything by driving it with this noise/leak if I can keep a
> small problem from
> becoming big, like crank cancer gets.   (No, it's not a banging
> noise, it's a
> hissing sound, sort of like a 60s/70s big engine running through a
> single small
> exhaust system....)
>
> If anyone has had something like this happen in the past, I'd
> appreciate it if you'd
> share it with me.  I'm parking it until I can figure it out.
>
> I have blipped the throttle while leaning over the throttle body
> (with the hood up).
>  I heard extra hissing type noises coming from more or less
> everywhere; that was the
> same noise.  It would be very hard to isolate it, since my engine is
> a bit more
> noisy than most, due to its mileage, even at idle.
>
> Thanks..
>
> George
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