Or a big block Chevy (flame suit on...). LOL! Actually, I got several compliments at the convention for my SHOShop catback wit Edelbrock mufflers. It's a touch too loud for having my driveway next to my neighbor's bedroom windows though! Alan > The raspier the better IMHO. Kirk you need a big fart pipe. > > If you want a good sounding exhaust get a Gen 3. > > Paul Nimz