[Shotimes] Fw: Gen II ATX Questions -- fuel mileage problems

[ROBERT SCHIRMER]

----- Original Message -----
From: ROBERT SCHIRMER<mailto:1surferbum@msn.com>
To: fgeorge<mailto:fgeorge@pacbell.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Gen II ATX Questions -- fuel mileage problems


If my O2 sensors are relatively new. How can one check the CATS?? I just
assumed that a engine code would be thrown, or the CATS would rattle, or there
would be no exhaust, if the CATS went bad??

If you take the car to a dyno, is a air/fuel ratio number thrown out. And if I
have one of Ted B  chips in the car, what should be A/F ratio be????????
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: fgeorge<mailto:fgeorge@pacbell.net>
  To: Shylo McKinsey<mailto:mrfluffy02@yahoo.com> ; ROBERT
SCHIRMER<mailto:1surferbum@msn.com>
  Cc: TaurusSHO<mailto:shotimes@autox.team.net>
  Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Gen II ATX Questions -- fuel mileage problems


  If the engine is not idling roughly or surging at cruise, I'd suggest
  checking the O2 sensors as well as the cats. Plugged cats or poor mixture
  feedback frequently can cause bad mileage.

  Fred

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Shylo McKinsey" <mrfluffy02@yahoo.com<mailto:mrfluffy02@yahoo.com>>
  To: "ROBERT SCHIRMER" <1surferbum@msn.com<mailto:1surferbum@msn.com>>
  Cc: "TaurusSHO" <shotimes@autox.team.net<mailto:shotimes@autox.team.net>>
  Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Gen II ATX Questions


  > 22 MPG on the freeway? Maybe throw in some Techron to
  > clean up those injectors. Could be your gas too. I get
  > about 24 in town with crappy MT gas with 195k on my
  > '91. Something sounds wrong with your numbers, but
  > maybe ATX SHO's don't do all that well when it comes
  > to fuel economy...
  >
  > Shylo McKinsey
  >
  > '91 White MTX
  >
  > --- ROBERT SCHIRMER <1surferbum@msn.com<mailto:1surferbum@msn.com>>
wrote:
  >
  > > very interesting. I am only getting 20-22 MPG with
  > > My '93 ATX, and only me in
  > > it at 70 mph. Based on Jeremy's comment, perhaps I
  > > need to load it up with
  > > more people??????????
  > >
  > > If other ATX's are gettign higher MPG, could my CATS
  > > be backed up, without
  > > throwing any codes?????
  > >   ----- Original Message -----
  > >   From:
Jeremy<mailto:jeremy@carrieandjeremy.com<mailto:jeremy@carrieandjeremy.com>>
  > >   To: 'Alan
Fanning'<mailto:Awfanning@earthlink.net<mailto:Awfanning@earthlink.net>>
  > > ;
  > >
'SHOtimes'<mailto:shotimes@autox.team.net<mailto:shotimes@autox.team.net>>
  > >   Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:58 PM
  > >   Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Gen II ATX Questions
  > >
  > >
  > >   On my recent trip to Lansing I averaged 27mpg with
  > > ~650lbs of people and
  > >   equipment, and an O2 sensor that throws a code
  > > every now and again.  (I'm
  > >   sure they're both in need of replacement).  I ran
  > > premium and didn't use
  > > the
  > >   A/C (it's broke - bah!).  Average speed was about
  > > 75mph.
  > >
  > >   Jeremy
  > >
  > >   '94 Opal ATX 115k
  > >
  > >   -----Original Message-----
  > >   From: Alan Fanning
  > > [mailto:Awfanning@earthlink.net]
  > >   Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:28 PM
  > >   To: SHOtimes
  > >   Subject: [Shotimes] Gen II ATX Questions
  > >
  > >   Went to look at the "rare green" '95 ATX I
  > > mentioned earlier in the week.
  > >   Owner seems to be an ideal seller - never drove
  > > the car hard and hasn't
  > >   scrimped on fixing things when they brake. He
  > > showed me his receipts and I
  > >   just about laughed - fuel pump, alternator, rear
  > > alignment bushings, brake
  > >   booster (didn't need, actually), cruise control.
  > > Typical Taurus failures.
  > >
  > >   But it's pretty darned nice, has the '96 upgraded
  > > brakes with Carbotech
  > >   pads, rear window tint, JBL but no CD player.
  > > H-rated tires in good shape.
  > >
  > >   Two questions -
  > >
  > >   1.  what sort of gas mileage do the ATX's get on
  > > the highway at 70-75 mph?
  > >   2.  what options exist for typing in a a CD
  > > changer/player to the JBL
  > >   system?
  > >
  > >   Thanks,
  > >
  > >       Alan
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