[Shotimes] A little advise

Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:35:29 -0400


Hmm.  I better look at my positive clamp again, 'cause I don't have
another little wire going anywhere.  I just replaced the clamp after
breaking the original one.  It was on a Sunday, so all I could do was
get one from AZ.  I want to go to NAPA and get a good one.  I had to
cut the old one off, and I definitely don't remember seeing a smaller
wire attached to it.

I don't seem to have any problems with anything though.  Fan works.
A/C works.  CE light comes on just as bright as others upon startup.
Is this a generational thing?


Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio

-'95 White MTX
   '96 Brake Upgrade

"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan




shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 08/18/2004 03:25:33 AM:

> On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:11:26 -0700 (PDT), John Stout wrote:
> 
> >George, the light is dimmer, and if I cycle the key a few times it 
seems to get a little fuel and
> will try and fire, and no I don't hear any hum when I turn the key, so 
what exactly is the CCRM ? 
> and where is it ?? 
> 
> Cool!!  Another hopefully easy fix.
> 
> The CCRM is the "Constant Control Relay Module", also known as the 
"Integrated Relay
> Control Module", and is apparently a common fixture of EFI Ford cars. 
All Tauri
> have them, but different engines have different versions, and they are 
not
> interchangeable.  It runs the cooling fan, a/c compressor, and various 
other things
> that we all need to either run or be comfortable, and most importantly, 
it supplies
> the basic power to run the fuel pump.  It is located underneath the 
plastic panel
> you see first thing after you open the hood, which is bolted to the 
radiator
> support.  If the CE light is dimmer than the others, that means the 
power source to
> the CCRM and the PCM (Powertrain Control Module, or engine computer), 
located in the
> far back of the glove compartment, is also not powered.   Hopefully, 
here you do not
> need to access the CCRM directily...you just need to get power to it. 
> 
> There is a small wire that comes off the positive battery terminal that 
goes a
> different direction than the big cable.  It goes down through a 
connector, then to
> the CCRM and then the PCM, supplying 12 volts.  If that wire is not 
connected or
> broken, the computer only gets 5 volts through the sensor harnesses (I'm 
guessing),
> and so the CE light is dimmer.  So, you have no power getting to these 
two
> components, OR, you have a bad ground coming back from them.  The ground 
is a
> similar sized wire that goes to a clip that screws to the fender behind 
the battery
> a ways, not too far from the power steering reservoir.
> 
> If the car has had its original battery terminals cut off the battery 
cables, and
> replacement terminals added, make sure that the small black wire coming 
off the
> positive cable is making good contact to the big cable.  Make sure the 
connector
> down below the battery, or wherever it might be, about 8 inches down 
that black
> wire, is connected.  Make sure the ground wire you find behind the 
battery is
> fastened securely to the fender.  These three things _should_ get you 
power to the
> CE light and to the two components.  If there isn't a problem here, you 
have more to
> troubleshoot, but the basic thing is there is no power to those two 
devices, and you
> won't get fuel pressure and a fully functioning engine computer without 
them.
> 
> You will get spark without power to these things....the computer doesn't 
generate
> the spark, it just times it properly.
> 
> Let us know what you find.
> 
> George
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