FW: [Shotimes] Smear campaign sneak

Jon Heese heese@digi-net.com
Sun, 19 Dec 2004 22:54:29 -0500


Umm... Speaking of Google searches, I know threaded discussions 
generally don't work like this, but a subject line change would be nice 
for anyone likely to be continuing this thread.  Even though the content 
is clearly on his side, the subject line here has the potential to be 
very misleading for someone that sees this thread on the archive site.

 - Jon

Noah South III wrote:

>Nope, did a google search on it and it and found a whole bunch of links
>pointing to that site as being an Al Qaeda support site.
>
>I would have thought my intelligence would have shone through a little
>better that you wouldn't assume I would think it was an Al Qaeda support
>site based solely on the fact the site is written in Arabic.  That would
>have been a STUNNINGLY ignorant assumption to make (mine not yours).
>
>-Noah South III
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ian Fisher [mailto:dataflash@yahoo.com] 
>Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:31 PM
>To: Noah South III; shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: FW: [Shotimes] I, too: Cheated by Al Fitz, SHO parts dealer
>
>I didn't get the significance of the street name. I
>also don't see any Al Qaeda or terrorist connections
>either?? I hope that wasn't an assumption based on the
>fact that the site is in Arabic or did you read that
>somewhere?
>
>Ian
>
>
>--- Noah South III <RaggTopp@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Ok, so this is what we have with regards to someone
>>spoofing other peoples
>>"send" addresses.  Note, they only spoofed the
>>"from:" field, all the rest
>>is where it REALLY came from.
>>
>>They all came from the same IP:
>>
>>207.44.232.22
>>
>>And their message ID's are all part of the same
>>domain, knph.com which has
>>the IP of:
>>
>>216.40.213.204
>>
>>Both of these point at:
>>
>>Everyones Internet, Inc.
>>2600 Southwest Freeway / Suite 500
>>Houston, TX 77098
>>(713)400-5400
>>
>>(as a side note, I hope I'm not the only person that
>>caught the relevance of
>>the street address) <G>
>>
>>Their Nameservers are all EV1.net servers too, which
>>are the nameservers
>>that indiahits.com and knph.com are associated with
>>
>>Now, I WOULD forward these messages along with
>>headers to their abuse
>>department if it wasn't for ONE thing.......
>>
>>I did a search for Everyones Internet, Inc. on
>>google and came up with this.
>>
>>http://alsaha.com
>>
>>Apparently this site has a Forum for Al Qaeda
>>supporters; I can't verify
>>that myself because I can't read anything on the
>>site other than to say that
>>it is not in English. <G>
>>
>>So if they happily host a site that supports
>>terrorism I have a feeling they
>>could give a llama's ass about someone using their
>>service to spoof
>>information.  Not to mention they don't even HAVE
>>their own website, which
>>flags them as an unscrupulous host INSTANTLY.
>>
>>This is what I CAN tell you though.  The person
>>responsible for this has
>>access to the indiahits.com account, and is using
>>the mail server associated
>>with that account to make posts to this list.
>>
>>If Everyones Internet was a legitimate host, they
>>could check their logs and
>>tell you exactly what IP address sent those e-mails
>>by the unique message ID
>>on each of them, and that in turn will point to the
>>specific computer used
>>to do all of this.
>>
>>You want more information you're going to have to
>>get it out of THEM, but
>>like I said, I don't think they'll be helpful.  In
>>fact I'd be surprised if
>>they even returned an e-mail.
>>
>>If anyone wants to go through the effort the abuse
>>address is abuse@ev1.net
>>
>>-Noah "Geek? Nah, not me." South III
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>>On Behalf Of Shylo McKinsey
>>Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 12:10 AM
>>To: Jim Steffl
>>Cc: TaurusSHO
>>Subject: Re: FW: [Shotimes] I, too: Cheated by Al
>>Fitz, SHO parts dealer
>>
>>"Any way someone can track this punk down?"
>>
>>I played with some "software" I have this
>>morning...but to no avail. Worked all afternoon,
>>will
>>play with it some more tonight. But I think there
>>are
>>some people on here who are much more "computer-code
>>and other stuff" savy then I.
>>
>>Shylo McKinsey
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>>
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