[Shotimes] Re: Park vs. Forward (was Autolock and MTX)

Sun, 1 Feb 2004 20:17:35 -0500

if you need evidence of that, I present the BMW M3/M5.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Prochilo [mailto:gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org]
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:16 AM
> To: Paul L Fisher
> Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: Park vs. Forward (was Autolock and MTX)
> 
> 
> Yeah.  I just found that website before I posted.  That was the actual
> exterior color IIRC that we had with the camel interior.  
> Leave it to the
> Germans to build a club around that car instead of the 
> Italians.  Makes me
> think that the Germans really understand better than anyone 
> the value of
> performance sedans.
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
> 
> Paul L Fisher said:
> > You mean one of these? 
> http://www.fiat130.de/eng/galery/images/ulthm5.htm
> > --
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 180K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax 
> cat-back, Holley
> > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, 
> Performance-Plus
> > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil 
> Series 2000 0W-30
> > oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Carl Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>:
> >
> >> Very good.  I have another one for you that's sort of the 
> reverse (pardon
> >> the pun) story.  And I do remember this story because I 
> was in the car
> >> when
> >> it happened.
> >>
> >> In 1970 we were on a family trip in Italy.  At the time, 
> the exchange rate
> >> was very favorable to americans, so my Dad was able to 
> rent a Fiat 130.
> >> (Now I want to know how many people even KNOW what that 
> car is.)  This car
> >> was the top of the line Fiat of it's day, and had a 3L V6 
> motor when most
> >> cars in that country were running less than 2L four 
> bangers.  The other
> >> technology the car had that was relatively new was disc 
> brakes.  Well,
> >> tooling around the Italian countryside, and especially in 
> Calabria where
> >> it
> >> is very mountanous, my father found himself without the 
> benefit of brakes.
> >> Fortunately he was eventually able to figure out how to 
> slow the car using
> >> the e-brake and the lower transmission gears.  He 
> apparently boiled the
> >> brake fluid, but prior to that he had never experienced 
> this.  The car had
> >> two adults, 2 kids, and a trunk full of heavy luggage.  
> Anyway, had he
> >> used
> >> the transmission (low gears) to slow the car down, he 
> would have been
> >> okay.
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carl Prochilo
> >> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
> >>
> >> Donald Mallinson said:
> >> > Carl,
> >> >
> >> > The Turboglide was really not very well known, so few people
> >> > would have probably been reluctant to use low gear because
> >> > of the problems with that tranny.  Chances are your father
> >> > was one that was told another bit of auto lore:
> >> >
> >> > Brakes are designed to slow down a car and motors to make it
> >> > go, let each do their own job and the car will last longer!
> >> >
> >> > Of coures with drum brakes (and mechanical brakes before
> >> > them) lower gears had to be used in cars as well as trucks.
> >> >
> >> > Funny how some habits happen though.  Here is another:
> >> >
> >> > I had a good friend that would never use the heater all the
> >> > time in the winter.  He said the car would get better gas
> >> > mileage if he kept the heater off.  Well, I knew better than
> >> > that, even when I was 15 and 16 years old.  But a bit later,
> >> > I found out WHY my friend probably felt that way.
> >> >
> >> > His father obviously grew up driving cars that had the very
> >> > good, but fairly rare optional heater system that used
> >> > gasoline in a heater inside the car!  So you had a FIRE
> >> > inside the car in a little space heater before good hot
> >> > water heaters were common.
> >> >
> >> > Thus turning off THAT type of heater DID save fuel,
> >> > especially during the depression, my friends father probably
> >> > wanted ever drop of fuel saved, and comfort was secondary,
> >> > so he taught his son to do the same, even though hot water
> >> > heaters have zero (or near zero, the fan pulls some juice
> >> > and thus a tiny amount of drag via the generator/alternator
> >> > on the motor) effect on fuel mileage.
> >> >
> >> > So as Paul Harvey would say: Now you know the rest of the story!
> >> >
> >> > Don Mallinson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Carl Prochilo wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> You made me remember things from a long time ago.  I 
> don't remember who
> >> I
> >> >> asked, probably my father, why he never used the lower 
> gears, I was
> >> told
> >> >> that they were only to slow the car down going down 
> hill.  I never
> >> really
> >> >> gave that much thought until I owned my own car.  I 
> know that my family
> >> >> never owned a car with a Turboglide transmission, but 
> now it certainly
> >> >> seems
> >> >> that a myth grew up around that issue that somehow got 
> extrapolated to
> >> all
> >> >> automatic transmissions of the 60s to the point that 
> I'm sure none of
> >> my
> >> >> family's older cars ever saw those gears get used.
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