[Shotimes] Starting Issues

[Kirk Doucette]

No a clue in the world.. wish I new

Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White

-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Weidenbenner [mailto:johnjweid@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:39 PM
To: Kirk Doucette; Paul Nimz; Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Starting Issues

Interesting. Why did the belt jump? Did both banks jump? How many miles on
the belt? Was the engine turned backwards by hand during installation?

John W.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
To: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; "John J. Weidenbenner"
<johnjweid@charter.net>; "Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Starting Issues


> I found it guys.. Believe it or not the timing belt jumped!  We did look
> quickly the other night and though all was good. (used motor I installed
for
> someone) was running just a week or so before the transplant.. Very
> weird....
>
> Cant believe it made the starter do what it did but oh well.
>
> Thanks for the help on and off list..
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Nimz [mailto:pnimz@v8sho.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:49 PM
> To: John J. Weidenbenner; Kirk Doucette; Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Starting Issues
>
> Correct but I don't think the grade of gas will slow down the cranking
> speed.  Either the starter has internal problems, the starter is not
getting
> enough current due to a bad connection or a weak battery or the oil is too
> thick.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John J. Weidenbenner" <johnjweid@charter.net>
> To: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; "Kirk Doucette"
> <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>; "Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Starting Issues
>
>
> > If the car has winter grade gas. Old or summer grade gas will be more
> > difficult to light off.
> >
> > John W.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>
> > To: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>; "Kirk Doucette"
> > <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>; "Shotimes@Autox. Team. Net"
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Starting Issues
> >
> >
> > > Around Illinois the gas vaporizes down to >-20F/C.....
> > >
> > > Paul Nimz
> > > '97 TR
> > > '93 EG mtx
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
> > > To: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>; "Shotimes@Autox.
Team.
> > Net"
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Starting Issues
> > >
> > >
> > > > Kirk:
> > > >  I would hold the pedal to the floor and try a shot of starting
fluid.
> > > It's
> > > > just so cold I don't think the gasoline is vaporizing enough! I
think
> > you
> > > > plugs are wet with fuel. Maybe put synthetic oil in to get more
RPM's
> > out
> > > of
> > > > the engine when starting it?
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I guess Im having a brain fart, or its just to cold in My building
> to
> > > > think
> > > > > straight..
> > > > >
> > > > > Did a motor swap over the last few days, with a known good motor.
> > > Swapped
> > > > it
> > > > > into this car and now I can not get it to start..  its a 93ATX .
> > > > >
> > > > > Motor is only turning over at 200rpm trying to start, I figuring
its
> > > cold
> > > > > and just slow, palm a few plugs and its soaked with gas, so I know
> the
> > > > > injectors are firing. Checked for spark as well and got plenty of
> that
> > > > (for
> > > > > 200rpm) . I changed out the battery to a new one same thing! I
> pulled
> > > all
> > > > > the plugs out to see if it would turn over faster and its still at
> > > 200prm
> > > > > with no plugs. Then Im thinking maybe the starter because of the
> > > horrible
> > > > > noise coming from it (electrical motor working real hard noise)
like
> a
> > > > whine
> > > > > with a rasp.  It just will not turn at a decent speed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again I already :
> > > > > Installed New Battery
> > > > > New Starter
> > > > > Pulled the plugs to eliminate compression
> > > > > Had a jump pack on with the New Battery to help spin faster..
> > > > >
> > > > > Im thinking some kind of voltage issue because of the sound from
the
> > > > starter
> > > > > area and that its just turning over so slow.   Can the starter be
> > hooked
> > > > up
> > > > > to work in reverse?  Could it be turning the wrong way? I know
this
> > > stuff
> > > > is
> > > > > simple but Im wondering it its possible..  Both Starters 1 old and
1
> > new
> > > > > sound like the bendix is trying to move a tank.  Could a cable
that
> > was
> > > > > maybe corroded weakened more and only letting a little bit of
juice
> to
> > > the
> > > > > starter?
> > > > >
> > > > > Air temp out side 3
> > > > > Winchill 18
> > > > > Inside shop temps with 2 heaters 32 degrees
> > > > > Concrete floor in heated section of shop 6 degrees
> > > > > Toes- bright red
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone tell me that Im not thinking straight in this cold
weather
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kirk J Doucette
> > > > > NESHOC President
> > > > > Stormtrooper-97 White
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