[Shotimes] OT for the Star Trek geeks

[Rick Glass]

Dangit Ron, here we go again agreeing on something.
I like Star Trek about as much as I like watching grown men wrestle in
spandex.


Rick Glass
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'SHOtimes mailing list (E-mail)'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT for the Star Trek geeks


> Sigh!!!
>
> It may be hard for some of you to understand, but from someone (me) who
has:
> (1) NEVER had any interest in ANYTHING Star Trek related, (2) NEVER
watched
> any of the shows, nor saw any of the movies (yes, I was a teenager when
the
> original hit the airwaves), and (3) NEVER bought a Star Trek goodie like a
> T-shirt, jockstrap, Halloween costume or a lunchbox.......
>
> I can say for the great number of people like myself......we think you are
> all a bunch of lunatics who need to get a life!!!! And no, nothing "Star
> Trek" was significant to anything in life....unless you feel that science
> fiction has any relevance!!
>
> God, there are OT threads that I can pass by as having no interest, but
> Trekkie stuff makes me wonder why humans never developed the trait of
> "eating their young" like other species!!  ;-)
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Hartberger, Jason M. ATAN
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 2:12 PM
> To: SHOtimes mailing list (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT for the Star Trek geeks
>
>
> Hmmm. Perhaps I over-reacted a bit. I agree, I guess to each his/her own,
> and it'll certainly be a story for the grandkids.
>
> There are a few reasons I grew out of it. First and foremost, the show
lost
> a big part of itself when Gene Roddenberry died. He had a vision for the
> show that nobody else has really been able to match. Nobody has really
been
> able to introduce any radical concepts like Gene did (inter-racial romance
> on TV, ethnic characters with major parts, etc). Most of the things that
> seem commonplace on TV now were revolutionary when Gene did them first,
and
> nobody's been able to reproduce that. The episodes, the plots and the
> messages behind them haven't been the same either. Back in the day (boy,
it
> seems wierd for me to say that), every episode, or almost every episode,
had
> a tangible moral or story behind it, and every episode was almost its own
> saga. In TOS, we had "the enemy within", a classic examination of the two
> halves in all of us; "balance of terror", the episode which introduces the
> Romulans, my personal favorite race; "the conscience of the king", wherin
> Kodos the Executioner is introduced and has a personal history with kirk
not
> only in that episode but in books far thereafter; one of the most famous
TOS
> episodes, "the Galileo Seven", a character study of everybody's favorite
> character, Spock; "the menagerie", which truly *is* a saga, it's even in
two
> parts!; "space seed", which has the introduction of Khan, and is the basis
> for one of the better ST movies, "the wrath of khan"; and the best, and
best
> known (in my opinion) episode, "city on the edge of forever", whose plot
> need not be explained. The next two seasons weren't so great, but a
notable
> episode was "the trouble with tribbles", another episode that *everybody*
> knows. Hell, people that don't even know what Star Trek is know what
> tribbles are. There are also the not-so-good episodes... the only one
> readily available to my memory is "spock's brain"... just a bad, bad
> episode.
>
> For ST:TNG, we have, for starters, the introduction of the Borg,
everybody's
> favorite race. why? cos resistance is futile... We have Q, played by John
> Delancie (who I have had the great personal pleasure of meeting... great
> guy, he is), we have Deanna's mom. Need I say more? We have Worf, the
> bad-assest person ever, we have "best of both worlds", TNG's Magnum Opus,
we
> had Data, my personal favorite character, and all of it was believable in
a
> way because all of these explored emotions that we have every day,
> situations that, while few of us really encounter, most of us can readily
> identify with.
>
> (more in next post)
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