[Shotimes] OT for the Star Trek geeks

[Donald Mallinson]

Ron, I would expect nothing less than a strong opinion from 
you!  :)

Yes I agree, it is just a TV show and in the grand scheme of 
things it isn't important. Neither is the SHO, or the 
Porsche or anything else really, it is all temporary.

The topic is marked OT, so as has been sugggested many 
times, don't let it get you down because SHO folk discuss 
something you don't understand, just hit delete!

What Star Treck IS, is entertainment.  You go in for that, I 
have seen you smile from time to time, you must then be 
entertained from time to time?   ;)

But do you like ANY TV show or movie?  If you do, then some 
people like Star Trek.  Some people may think you are wierd 
for whatever you like.  But to just put YOUR likes down 
would be rude....

Try to keep an open mind, or as Mrs. Troi would say: "Unlike 
some people....I am in growth!"  :)

Don Mallinson
P.S.  You know where I could get a Star Trek jock strap? 
I've GOT to have one of those!  :)



Ron Porter wrote:

> Sigh!!!
> 
> It may be hard for some of you to understand, but from someone (me) who has:
> (1) NEVER had any interest in ANYTHING Star Trek related, (2) NEVER watched
> any of the shows, nor saw any of the movies (yes, I was a teenager when the
> original hit the airwaves), and (3) NEVER bought a Star Trek goodie like a
> T-shirt, jockstrap, Halloween costume or a lunchbox.......
> 
> I can say for the great number of people like myself......we think you are
> all a bunch of lunatics who need to get a life!!!! And no, nothing "Star
> Trek" was significant to anything in life....unless you feel that science
> fiction has any relevance!!
> 
> God, there are OT threads that I can pass by as having no interest, but
> Trekkie stuff makes me wonder why humans never developed the trait of
> "eating their young" like other species!!  ;-)
> 
> Ron Porter
> 
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> 
> Hmmm. Perhaps I over-reacted a bit. I agree, I guess to each his/her own,
> and it'll certainly be a story for the grandkids.
> 
> There are a few reasons I grew out of it. First and foremost, the show lost
> a big part of itself when Gene Roddenberry died. He had a vision for the
> show that nobody else has really been able to match. Nobody has really been
> able to introduce any radical concepts like Gene did (inter-racial romance
> on TV, ethnic characters with major parts, etc). Most of the things that
> seem commonplace on TV now were revolutionary when Gene did them first, and
> nobody's been able to reproduce that. The episodes, the plots and the
> messages behind them haven't been the same either. Back in the day (boy, it
> seems wierd for me to say that), every episode, or almost every episode, had
> a tangible moral or story behind it, and every episode was almost its own
> saga. In TOS, we had "the enemy within", a classic examination of the two
> halves in all of us; "balance of terror", the episode which introduces the
> Romulans, my personal favorite race; "the conscience of the king", wherin
> Kodos the Executioner is introduced and has a personal history with kirk not
> only in that episode but in books far thereafter; one of the most famous TOS
> episodes, "the Galileo Seven", a character study of everybody's favorite
> character, Spock; "the menagerie", which truly *is* a saga, it's even in two
> parts!; "space seed", which has the introduction of Khan, and is the basis
> for one of the better ST movies, "the wrath of khan"; and the best, and best
> known (in my opinion) episode, "city on the edge of forever", whose plot
> need not be explained. The next two seasons weren't so great, but a notable
> episode was "the trouble with tribbles", another episode that *everybody*
> knows. Hell, people that don't even know what Star Trek is know what
> tribbles are. There are also the not-so-good episodes... the only one
> readily available to my memory is "spock's brain"... just a bad, bad
> episode.
> 
> For ST:TNG, we have, for starters, the introduction of the Borg, everybody's
> favorite race. why? cos resistance is futile... We have Q, played by John
> Delancie (who I have had the great personal pleasure of meeting... great
> guy, he is), we have Deanna's mom. Need I say more? We have Worf, the
> bad-assest person ever, we have "best of both worlds", TNG's Magnum Opus, we
> had Data, my personal favorite character, and all of it was believable in a
> way because all of these explored emotions that we have every day,
> situations that, while few of us really encounter, most of us can readily
> identify with.
> 
> (more in next post)
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