[Shotimes] Suspension? Advice

James White greensho@crown.net
Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:42:22 -0500


I agree with V.O. on this.

I had Moog Cargo Coils installed on the '93 some years back when it only had
90k and the effect was like a "pogo-stick" with the OEM struts.

I also carry 3-500 lbs. or business stuff in the trunk most of time.

Konis curred the problem.  You need something better than Monroes.  Maybe
KYBs are OK?  Konis are lifetime warranty and they don't give you much
static about replacement.  The new '95 has Tokikos (SP?) with Eibach
springs.  Rides lower, but still handles the load.

Think that Monroe makes a reasonably priced upper mount, which you should
replace.

regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
Valparaiso, Indiana
'95 MTX - 282k - lots of mods
'93 MTX - 285k - few mods and starting to rust
'95 MTX - 138k - lots of mods


----- Original Message -----
From: van Oss <vanOss@centurytel.net>
To: <Barry@kingcon.com>
Cc: 'Shotimes' <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Suspension? Advice


> Stock rear Taurus springs, SLO or SHO, do tend to sag.  I would replace
> them.
>
> I agree with Kerby --- since you carry a trunkful, you want Cargo Coils.
> They are rated higher (measured in lbs. of load needed to compress the
> spring one inch) than factory springs, so your car will sag less when
> loaded, improving handling.  If you were to empty out the trunk, Cargo
Coils
> in the rear would feel firmer than stock springs.  If you carry a load
most
> of the time, the ride will feel like stock.
>
> Because Cargo Coils are rated higher, they need a beefier strut to
> compensate.  Monroe Sensa-Tracs are not quite enough.  However, there are
a
> few owners who have that combo for budget reasons, and you might feel it's
> an acceptable compromise for your budget.  If you can spend just a little
> more, not a lot, I would look at KYB GR2 struts.  They are a bit better
> match to the rating of the Cargo Coils.  Don't neglect to watch for them
on
> eBay.
>
> The rattle you hear might be the strut mount plate, yes.  Another
> possibility is the rear sway-bar link.  You'll know more when you get
things
> apart.  While you're working in the vicinity, I'd advise checking and
> perhaps replacing all the sway-bar bushings.  This would be a convenient
> time to consider upgrading to a 26mm rear sway-bar, if you wish.
>
> One time-saving tip:  Get yourself a ratcheting box-end wrench in the 13mm
> size.  When you get to removing the three nuts that hold the strut mount
to
> the body on each side, crawl into the trunk and use your new wrench.  Much
> faster than pulling the rear seat and deck.
>
> VO
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Hayes" <Barry@kingcon.com>
> Cc: "'Shotimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Suspension? Advice
>
>
> Hello
> A need some advice on rear suspension. I will soon need to replace a
> leaky rear strut. I know this means both of them. I will probably go
> with Monroe Sensatracs for budget reasons and since I don't do any track
> work. However the rear seems to be dragging and I am contemplating doing
> the springs since the struts will be out anyway. What would be a good
> swap in? Factory original? Perhaps something a bit stronger? I usually
> carry a fair amount of stuff in the trunk since this is my  business
> car, but I want a good ride and decent handling. I do mostly interstate
> driving but I live in northern Vermont so there is also a lot of 2 lane
> blacktop. I've heard of Moog cargo coils. Any opinions? What about trw
> springs from autozone? Are they comparable to factory ratings & quality?
>
> Finally, any surprises I should expect doing the struts? I have a rattle
> at the top of the left strut which I suspect is a bad mount. Is this a
> factory only part? Anything else I should watch out for?
> Thanks in advance
> Barry Hayes
>
> 95mtx all stock 120K+
>
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