And of course, the Hoffmeister kink. -Ron Ron Nottingham <ron@v6sho.com> wrote: Even without the new twin kidney grille and the angel eyes, there are still many BMW traits. Such as the extremely short front overhang, cab-rearward styling... Oh well, the whole thing just shouts "BMW" to me though. Yeah :-) A Kia with a 500hp V10 :-)