[Shotimes] rattling cat

Bill Murray fordsho@cloud9grafx.com
Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:43:41 -0400


Its illegal to remove it because Federal law requires it to be there.
So even if Florida doesn't care if you have cats and they're working,
Federal law says they have to be there.

Bill Murray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:15 PM
> To: Jon Heese; SHOTimes List
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] rattling cat
> 
> 
> If FL has no emissions testing why would it be illegal to remove it?
> 
> Back in the 70s and early 80s the cats were added after the 
> engine selection
> and design and consequently "choked" the engine, hence the 
> bad rap that cats
> still have to this day (in some people's minds).
> 
> Nowadays it seems as though engines are designed and tuned 
> with the cats as
> an integral part, and the cat technology has improved 
> dramatically in the
> last 15 years.  It's been said many times on this list that 
> "removing the
> cats from your SHO kills the low-end" AND "the SHO engine likes some
> backpressure".
> 
> I don't know if that holds true for the 3.0 or 3.8 in your 
> SLO, but gutting
> one cat and having a difference in back pressure between the 
> cylinder banks
> can't be a good thing.
> 
> Do your part for the environment and get it replaced, or just 
> live with the
> rattling until the piece finally works itself out of the cat and comes
> flying out your tail pipe in a puff of smoke.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Heese" <heese@digi-net.com>
> To: "SHOTimes List" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:51 AM
> Subject: [Shotimes] rattling cat
> 
> 
> > My '95 SLO was running rich due to some changes I made to 
> the throttle
> > body (since fixed), but I fear it already killed my 
> passenger bank cat.
> > I don't much care about its functionality (FL has no 
> emissions testing),
> > but now i've got a bunch of rocks rattling around inside 
> the thing.  I'd
> > take it to a muffler shop, but I presume that they won't 
> just gut it for
> > me (still illegal, right?), and I don't want to pay money I 
> don't have
> > for new cats I don't want, just to get rid of the rattling.
> >
> > I looked at the possibility of removing the downpipe 
> assembly (FL car
> > has seen no salt), but I'm not sure exactly how I'd go 
> about gutting the
> > thing afterwards...
> >
> > I know the ATX SHO cats are different, but if anyone has 
> any experience
> > in general, I'd appreciate any tips or advice on the matter.
> >
> >  - Jon Heese
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