[Shotimes] rattling cat

[Jason Hartberger]

you know, my cat makes more of a screaming sound when I shake it.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] rattling cat


> That's right.  Any reputable shop will refuse to do this.  I know cause
> I've asked.
> 
> Anyway, if you want to run without cats, might be easier to just buy an
> offroad Y-pipe and stick it on.
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> 
> On Thu, July 15, 2004 1:43 pm, Bill Murray said:
> > Its illegal to remove it because Federal law requires it to be there.
> > So even if Florida doesn't care if you have cats and they're working,
> > Federal law says they have to be there.
> >
> > Bill Murray
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:15 PM
> >> To: Jon Heese; SHOTimes List
> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] rattling cat
> >>
> >>
> >> If FL has no emissions testing why would it be illegal to remove it?
> >>
> >> Back in the 70s and early 80s the cats were added after the
> >> engine selection
> >> and design and consequently "choked" the engine, hence the
> >> bad rap that cats
> >> still have to this day (in some people's minds).
> >>
> >> Nowadays it seems as though engines are designed and tuned
> >> with the cats as
> >> an integral part, and the cat technology has improved
> >> dramatically in the
> >> last 15 years.  It's been said many times on this list that
> >> "removing the
> >> cats from your SHO kills the low-end" AND "the SHO engine likes some
> >> backpressure".
> >>
> >> I don't know if that holds true for the 3.0 or 3.8 in your
> >> SLO, but gutting
> >> one cat and having a difference in back pressure between the
> >> cylinder banks
> >> can't be a good thing.
> >>
> >> Do your part for the environment and get it replaced, or just
> >> live with the
> >> rattling until the piece finally works itself out of the cat and comes
> >> flying out your tail pipe in a puff of smoke.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jon Heese" <heese@digi-net.com>
> >> To: "SHOTimes List" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:51 AM
> >> Subject: [Shotimes] rattling cat
> >>
> >>
> >> > My '95 SLO was running rich due to some changes I made to
> >> the throttle
> >> > body (since fixed), but I fear it already killed my
> >> passenger bank cat.
> >> > I don't much care about its functionality (FL has no
> >> emissions testing),
> >> > but now i've got a bunch of rocks rattling around inside
> >> the thing.  I'd
> >> > take it to a muffler shop, but I presume that they won't
> >> just gut it for
> >> > me (still illegal, right?), and I don't want to pay money I
> >> don't have
> >> > for new cats I don't want, just to get rid of the rattling.
> >> >
> >> > I looked at the possibility of removing the downpipe
> >> assembly (FL car
> >> > has seen no salt), but I'm not sure exactly how I'd go
> >> about gutting the
> >> > thing afterwards...
> >> >
> >> > I know the ATX SHO cats are different, but if anyone has
> >> any experience
> >> > in general, I'd appreciate any tips or advice on the matter.
> >> >
> >> >  - Jon Heese
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