[Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement

Kenneth _cajun_@myway.com
Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:39:47 -0400 (EDT)


Boy,has this thread gotten out of hand.When I 1st posted this several weeks ago.I made the statement"there is NO car that can replace the SHO.And there still isn't one made today.A SHO is A SHO.....A souped up Taurus with a kickass engine.A lexus is a lexus,a bmw is just that a bmw,all this bullshit about mazada 6 or that crap about a nissian gxe is faster and handles better,HA!The only car that can replace a SHO is another SHO.
Kenneth C.
'90 Red
'92 SHO-SHO




 --- On Fri 07/23, James F. Ryan III < av8r567@optonline.net > wrote:
From: James F. Ryan III [mailto: av8r567@optonline.net]
To: sho@paul-fisher.com, rbchilds@pacbell.net, shotimes@autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:30:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement

The Cadillac V-8-6-4 system was introduced the same year as the IBM-PC -<br>1981, and was used for that year only.  The "computers" in cars of the late<br>70s and early 80s weren't called OBD-I, that didn't start until 1982.  If<br>the brand new IBM-PC had 640kB of RAM and a 4.77MHz 8088 I can only guess<br>that the "computers" in the cars at that time were 1/10 of that.<br><br>My friend Lou's father bought a Caddy in 1981 with the V-8-6-4 and he loved<br>it.  He was so proud of it and drove it for many years without problems.  I<br>did a search on the internet and it seems its reliability was pot-luck and<br>the SOP was to disable the system and just let the engine be a V-8.<br><br>It's easy to look back in hindsight, 25 years ago, and say the Cadillac<br>system was a piece of junk.  I applaud them for their vision and the<br>engineering effort.  Who knows, if Cadillac hadn't offered the system in<br>1981 maybe Daimler wouldn't have been inspired.<br><br>When I did the search, I also learned 2 other things.  1 - The V-8-6-4<br>system wasn't designed by Cadillac it was designed by Eaton.  2 - This<br>wasn't Caddy's first foray into this area, in the 1930's they offered a<br>similar system on their V-16.  The system could shut off an entire bank,<br>effectively making a straight-8, and it supposedly worked well.<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com><br>To: "'Ron Childs'" <rbchilds@pacbell.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net><br>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:38 AM<br>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement<br><br><br>> Probably because of the new capability of the electronics. When the V8-6-4<br>> came out, wasn't OBD-I still the standard?<br>><br>><br>> Paul L Fisher<br>><br>> '99 Ford Taurus SHO Toreador Red Clearcoat Metallic 66K - Kirk'ed 2/29/04<br>><br>>  - Amsoil Two-Stage Air Filter - TS-124<br>><br>> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/<br>> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/<br>> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]<br>> On Behalf Of Ron Childs<br>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:21 PM<br>> To: shotimes@autox.team.net<br>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement<br>><br>> In the road tests I have seen of the new hemis, they have said the system<br>is<br>> not<br>> even noticeable; much better than the Cadillac 8-6-4 system.<br>><br>> -Ron Childs  '91<br>><br>> --- BOB FISHER <thunderbird88@comcast.net> wrote:<br>> >  cadillac tried this a while back and it was a flop.i wonder if it will<br>> flop<br>> > for chrysler too.BOB<br>> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > From: "bjshov8" <bjshov8@comcast.net><br>> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net><br>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:42 PM<br>> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > I think the jury is still out on this but the Hemi has a system that<br>> drops<br>> > > out some cylinders under light load in order to improve mileage.<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Shotimes mailing list<br>> Shotimes@autox.team.net<br>> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Shotimes mailing list<br>> Shotimes@autox.team.net<br>> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes<br>_______________________________________________<br>Shotimes mailing list<br>Shotimes@autox.team.net<br>http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes<br>

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