[Shotimes] Caught a Thief in Action
Kirk Doucette
Kirk.doucette@verizon.net
Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:55:10 -0500
And what if the guy took your gun away from you and beat you silly with it?
Your really willing to shoot someone over a 1000$ car?
Yeah officer he was trying to steal my car so I pulled out my gun(it was in
my rolled up pant leg" and he took it away from me and just before he Beotch
slapped me he made me say that I was really Stoopid 3 times!
Hence the term "Guns don't kill people real unintelligent people with guns
do"
Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of kenneth martin
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:14 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Caught a Thief in Action
Damn,Guess I would be in jail,cause I would have came out with my .45 and
probally pistol whipped him,but unless your in that particular situation
yourself no one would ever know,was it force or deadly force,was your life
in jeapordy........nope!Yeah officer he was trying to steal my car so I shot
him.
KennethC.
>From: "Noah South III" To: "SHOTimes-Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Shotimes]
>Caught a Thief in Action Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:43:25 -0500
>
>Too many factors to know what's going to happen to either party for sure,
>it really comes down to the thief's prior record. If the thief is a first
>time offender, he'll just get probation and maybe a little jail, no prison
>for sure. In this case the vehicle owner may have the excessive force
>charge stick, but with a reduced sentence (fine, community service, no
>probation or jail). If the guy IS a repeat offender, the judge will tell
>him he asked for it, throw the book at him, and dismiss the excessive force
>charges against the owner. Working with several of the local club's
>bouncers the only time I've seen an excessive force charge even stick is if
>the person who got beat wasn't really asking for it (too drunk to even
>fight), and in that case it was the minimum sentence, just a fine. This is
>all taking into consideration the thief doesn't have Johnny Cochran for a
>lawyer.
>
>BTW, the excessive force charge is DEFINITLY from clocking the guy in the
>face with the stick, nothing else, not the "laying the beats on him" or
>anything like that. It's JUST hitting him in the face with the lacross
>stick. Equal force is using the same weapon as the other guy, in this
>case, bare hands. He used a "weapon" so it's now excessive force. I'm
>sure the guys face got REAL messed up when he got hit, so it looked pretty
>bad to the cops.
>
>Remember, if you're ever in this type of situation, unless the guy you're
>trying to take down is twice your size, just use your fists and feet (and
>it helps not to have any type of formal martial arts training, then your
>body becomes a weapon of excessive force).
>
>-Noah South III
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Glass" To: "Al Fitz" ; "_SHOtimes"
>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Caught a Thief
>in Action
>
>
> > Most definitely fight the charge...... > > he swung first, then he got
>you in the stomach, it was self defense on > private property..... > > he
>had it comin' > > > Rick Glass > Nashville, TN > SESHOC > ' 96
>BS 172k FOR SALE > Kirk'd Feb. 3 > '99 Silver 42k TOO MUCH FUN TO
>LEAVE PARKED > Flowmaster Original 40's > 3rd cat/resonator
>removed > Intake slighly modified (but not Porterized) > will
>be Kirk'd at the next Southeast CamFest (August) > > ----- Original Message
>----- > From: "Al Fitz" > To: "_SHOtimes" > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004
>2:05 PM > Subject: [Shotimes] Caught a Thief in Action > > > > I read this
>on the SHO forum today.... > > > > > > I was spending the night at my
>cousins place on Saturday night after > > celebrating his birthday. He put
>me in a room that was directly in front > of > > the driveway where my SHO
>was parked. The window in the room faced the > front > > of the SHO. > > >
> > I was awoken around 4 am by a noise outside. I looked out the window and
>I > > noticed a figure by the drivers side door on my SHO. > > > > I
>grabbed a lacrosse stick and snuck out the back door of the house and >
>crept > > up right behind the figure. > > > > He was definatly trying to
>steal the car, so I tapped him on the shoulder > and > > told him to stop
>what hes doing. He spun around and swung at me, totally > > missing. > > >
> > I whacked him on the knee and then cross checked him in the face area
>with > the > > stick. He fell down like a tonne of bricks. I then pinned
>this theif on > the > > ground while my cousin ran outside. I told him to
>call the cops. > > > > During this time I was talking to my cousin, the
>thief punched me in the > > stomach so I got off of him and I started to
>lay the beats on him. The > next > > door neighbor came outside and asked
>whats going on, and I told him about > this > > guy trying to steal my car.
>The neighbor (around 30 years old) wanted in > on > > beating the theif up,
>but I wouldnt let him. > > > > The cops showed up and took him away, and
>another set of cops arrived and > told > > me that im getting charged for
>excessive force. (as long as my SHO was > stolen, > > Im all good tho). > >
> > > Should I fight this charge tho? What do you guys think? > >
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