[Shotimes] Ethnic Diversity

[Ron Nottingham]

NASCAR has everything to do with race. That's what they do on Sunday's, and
some Saturday nights. OK, now I know some may disagree that NASCAR holds
races, but look it up in a dictionary: race - a contest of speed :-)

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO
89 325i
(OO==00==OO)
"It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bekki Jones" <broland@CLEMSON.EDU>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:58 PM
Subject: [Shotimes] Ethnic Diversity


> To begin with, I don't see what Hockey has to do with NASCAR or SHOs, but
I
> just wanted to make a comment on the statement that the countries named
are
> "ethnically Caucasian."  The countries listed (USA, Canada, Sweden,
Poland,
> Russia, Czech) and Northern Asia are all very different.  There are
"black"
> people in Poland just like USA.  Also, Russians and Czechs are, in fact,
> mostly Caucasian, but not enough to say that they are  Caucasian based
> countries.  I'm saying this because I am personally Ludar Roma (aka
> "Gypsy"), and my family came here from Russia.  My people are not
> considered Caucasian any more than a Hispanic, Latin, or black person.  In
> fact, if my mother were not Caucasian, I would be considered a
> minority.  Also, there is not a country in Asia that is even remotely
> Caucasian based.  Why did race even come up here?  We're supposed to be
> celebrating the Power of the Great SHO!  Focus, people!
>
>
> Message: 2
> From: "James F. Ryan III" <av8r567@optonline.net>
> To: "'Noah South III'" <RaggTopp@comcast.net>, "Donald Mallinson"
>    <dmall@mwonline.net>, "'SHOTimes-Mailing List'"
>    <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL  Was:NASCAR numbnuts
> Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:34:29 -0400
>
>  >Really?  Black players in Hockey?  I haven't seen a single
>  >one.
>
> Grant Fuhr played in the NHL from 1981-2000.  He was with the Edmonton
> Oilers during the Gretzky dynasty.  However, he was a goalie so not many
> people knew he was black (because of the goalie mask).
>
> Current black NHL (not minor league) players are:
>
> Fred Brathwaite (goalie) - Columbus Blue Jackets
> Kevin Weekes (goalie) - Carolina Hurricanes
> Anson Carter (right wing) - Los Angeles Kings
> Jarome Iginla (right wing) - Calgary Flames
> Mike Grier (right wing) - Buffalo Sabres
> Georges Laraque (right wing) - Edmonton Oilers
> Donald Brashear (left wing) - Philadelphia Flyers
> Peter Worrell (left wing) - Colorado Avalanche
>
> These 8 players comprise 1.2% of the entire NHL, but that's still 100%
> more than NASCAR.
>
>
>  >Also, if you didn't notice, the only countries you named are
>  >ones that are ethnically Caucasian. Plus Sweden, Poland,
>  >Russia, and anything else in Northern Asia are all considered
>  >to be VERY close ethnically.
>
> Also, if YOU didn't notice, countries near the equator do not get snow
> and ice.  It makes it kinda hard to learn how to play ice hockey in the
> plains of the Serengeti or in the middle of the rainforest.
>
>
>  >Hockey does indeed lack ethnic diversity as a sport.
>
> You haven't got a clue.
>
>
>  >
>  >-Noah South III
>  >
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
>  >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:33 PM
>  >> To: 'Noah South III'; 'SHOTimes-Mailing List'
>  >> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
>  >>
>  >> >Any why the hell hasn't anyone taken some pot shots at Hockey?
>  >>
>  >> Hockey?!?!?  Now you've gone a struck a nerve, Mr. South.  "Lacking
>  >> ethnic diversity" does not mean "lacking black guys".  Hockey is
>  >> probably the most diverse sport we have in the U.S.  There are black
>  >> and white players AND players from MANY different ethnicities - USA,
>  >> Canada, Sweden, Poland, Russia, Czech, etc.
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