[Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts

Wed, 12 May 2004 17:36:01 -0400

So you are talking American Indians here?

I can't say I ever heard of them playing hockey.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts

Well, I'm talking about REAL americans here, not just people with US
citizenships. If you're swedish, and you have a US citizenship, you're STILL
SWEDISH as far as I'm concerned with hockey. In other respects, yeah, if you
have a U.S. citizenship, you're american, but I'm trying to make a
distinction here.

Jason

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From: "James F. Ryan III" <av8r567@optonline.net>
To: "'Jason Hartberger'" <at3hartberger@mail.com>; "'Noah South III'"
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Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts

> >There are american people in hockey? I had no idea...
>
> Yeah!!!  And more than 1 guy.
>
> Here's the breakdown of the 690 current NHL players:
>
> Canada - 374 (54%)
> USA - 102 (15%)
> Czech territories - 70 (10%)
> Russian territories - 64 (9%)
> Sweden - 43 (6%)
> Finland - 24 (4%)
> Switzerland - 2
> West Germany - 2
> Norway - 1
> Poland - 1
> Austria - 1
> Northern Ireland - 1
> England - 1
> France - 1
> South Africa - 1
> South Korea - 1
>
>
>
>
> >
> >Jason
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "James F. Ryan III" <av8r567@optonline.net>
> >To: "'Noah South III'" <RaggTopp@comcast.net>;
> >"'SHOTimes-Mailing List'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:33 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
> >
> >
> >> >Any why the hell hasn't anyone taken some pot shots at Hockey?
> >>
> >> Hockey?!?!?  Now you've gone a struck a nerve, Mr. South.  "Lacking 
> >> ethnic diversity" does not mean "lacking black guys".  Hockey is 
> >> probably the most diverse sport we have in the U.S.  There are 
> >> black and white players AND players from MANY different ethnicities 
> >> - USA, Canada, Sweden, Poland, Russia, Czech, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
> >> >[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Noah South III
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:58 PM
> >> >To: SHOTimes-Mailing List
> >> >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >No, you're right.  NASCAR isn't racist............but tell me, 
> >> >last time you went to a NASCAR race, how many black guys did you 
> >> >see in the stands?
> >> >
> >> >Racism and "lacking ethnic diversity" are two different things 
> >> >that are often confused with one another.
> >> >
> >> >-Noah South III
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
> >> >> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >> >> On Behalf Of Rick5638@aol.com
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:41 PM
> >> >> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not a big fan of NASCAR myself but the hard cold fact
> >> >here is that
> >> >> not only NASCAR but many other Motor Sports are dominated
> >by "White
> >> >> Males" your simply stating the obvious and raising an issue
> >> >thats not
> >> >> really an issue. Its
> >> >> like making the statement that the NBA or Boxing for that
> >> >matter dosen't
> >> >> promote
> >> >> ethnic diversity. Are there " White Males" in those sports,
> >> >sure but the
> >> >> overwhelming majority is non "White Males."
> >> >> Lets face it, NASCAR is doing something right based on its
> >> >sheer numbers
> >> >> of
> >> >> followers. Its been THE or one of THE fastest growing sports
> >> >by numbers
> >> >> for the
> >> >> past 2-3 years. Do you think for 1 second that if NASCAR
> >> >could field an
> >> >> African American team that was competitve it wouldn't
> >> >explode in growth
> >> >> again? I'm
> >> >> sure they would lose some of the hard core faithful but the
> >> >growth would
> >> >> far
> >> >> out weigh the loss. To Imply a SPORT like NASCAR is somehow a 
> >> >> racist organization in any sense is simply an ignorant statement
> >> >without facts to
> >> >> support such
> >> >> a strong accusation.
> >> >>
> >> >> just my 2 cents worth.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick
> >> >> 95 ATX
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