[Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?

[Paul Nimz]

My '97 has the rotating headrest and dual visors...

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Glass" <rick@pitroadproducts.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; "'V8List SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?


> The GenIII does not have the auto brake release feature.
> I miss that feature more than the rotating headrest or dual visors.
>
> Rick Glass
>   Nashville, TN
>   SESHOC
> '99 Silver 60k (still adding up)
>   Flowmaster 40's
>   no "pre-muff"/resonator
>   WELDED (Kirk's 432nd, 8-31-04)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason Hartberger" <at3hartberger@mail.com>
> To: "Rick Glass" <rick@pitroadproducts.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>;
> "'V8List SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?
>
>
>> on the ATX, it has that handy little automatic release while you're in
>> drive... it's really great cos I can use it just like a hand brake... it
>> doesn't engage or anything.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Glass" <rick@pitroadproducts.com>
>> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; "'V8List SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?
>>
>>
>> >I use the e-brake when conditions require rear steering.....
>> > I really wish the SHO had a hand brake, but with a little experience,
> the
>> > foot brake isn't too bad...
>> > just a b!t#h to release in a slide.
>> >
>> > Rick Glass
>> >   Nashville, TN
>> >   SESHOC
>> > '99 Silver 60k (still adding up)
>> >   Flowmaster 40's
>> >   no "pre-muff"/resonator
>> >   WELDED (Kirk's 432nd, 8-31-04)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>
>> > To: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>;
>> > "'V8List SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:13 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?
>> >
>> >
>> >> My SHO with winter tires is the best car I have ever driven deep snow
> or
>> > on
>> >> ice.  I did not have any winter tires for my RWD cars so I guess I am
> not
>> > so
>> >> sure of this.  But with the FWD and the awareness that the front can't
> do
>> >> two things well it pulls through the snow tremendously.  I do miss the
>> > rear
>> >> end steering that can be had on the RWDs.
>> >>
>> >> I also don't live on a dirt road.....
>> >>
>> >> Paul Nimz
>> >> '97 TR
>> >> '93 EG mtx
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
>> >> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; "'V8List SHO'" <v8sho@v8sho.com>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:57 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Like I said, I have had both, and RWD, even with winter tires still
>> > won't
>> >> > take you through snow as well as FWD.  The right tires make a HUGE
>> >> > difference in compentency in any vehicle, but especially RWD.  My
>> > Mustang
>> >> > with two winter tires on the back would go real well, but it 
>> >> > wouldn't
>> >> > turn. With four winter tires, it would have been a lot better. But 
>> >> > my
>> > SHO
>> >> > or any FWD with the same two winter tires (this tim on the front)
> will
>> > go
>> >> > AND turn better than the RWD Stang (or other RWD cars).  With Four
>> > winter
>> >> > tires, a FWD SHO becomes the equal of snow plows in many ways!
>> >> >
>> >> > There is a reason there is no such thing as a rear drive horse drawn
>> >> > vehicle.  :)  The advantage of the "emissions" being in back beside,
>> > LOL,
>> >> > you just can't PUSH something through muck (snow/mud) as efficiently
> as
>> >> > you can pull it.
>> >> >
>> >> > That, flat out, is why FWD outperforms RWD in those situations.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, and you correctly brought up a fun point that with FWD you can
>> > "test"
>> >> > for ice/slick conditions easily without spinning out.  I have been
>> >> > doing
>> >> > that for years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Don Mallinson
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Ron Porter wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> As I mentioned earlier, when my wife & I were living in Chicago, we
>> >> >> replaced
>> >> >> the useless Eagle GTs on her '89 GT 5.0 5-speed (and those tires
> were
>> >> >> even
>> >> >> bad in the wet in summer) with some good all-season tires, and that
>> >> >> car
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> as good in the winter as the SHO.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Years ago, I believe that much of the issue with RWD in winter were
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> generally crappy tires available back then.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ron Porter
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Donald Mallinson [mailto:dmall@mwonline.net] Sent: Saturday,
>> >> >> October 30, 2004 11:08 PM
>> >> >> To: shotimes@autox.team.net; V8List SHO
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My Mustang without real winter tires was positively helpless in
>> > anything
>> >> >> over a dusting of snow.  EVERY FWD car I have had, including the 
>> >> >> MTX
>> > SHO
>> >> >> is a huge leap forward in traction in those conditions.
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