[Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?

[Ron Porter]

"Properly set up" doesn't mean studded snow tires, it means good a/s tires
on both vehicles, or both with snow tires, or both with studded tires.

In your example, you "think" the SHO does better than the 320i. Let me give
you a REAL example.

In 1989, I buy a new SHO. My fianci (now wife) buys a new Mustang GT 5.0
5-speed. Less than a year later we move to Chicago, and both get new
all-season tires on each of the cars (same brand & type). The GT 5.0, IMHO,
was superior in the snow & slush overall. Certain things the SHO did better,
other things the GT did better, but overall I took the Mustang out when snow
was the worst.

You ask which accelerates better? Frankly, measuring pure acceleration rates
in bad weather is not the most relevant example for me. It isn't always "how
fast" it accelerates, it's "how" it accelerates. FWIW, I would bet on that
GT 5.0 on a race against the SHO in bad weather snow/slush.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of cmichaelo@optonline.net
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Shylo McKinsey
Cc: TaurusSHO
Subject: Re: RE: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?


It would seem logical that when comparing FWD to RWD that we compare apples
to apples to as large an extent as possible. Or at least compare green
apples to red apples, no?

Thus, comparing a regular SHO to a "properly" set up RWD, just doesn't make
any sense IMO.

So from this viewpoint, let's examine the following cases:

1) A representative out-of-the-box FWD car from 1990, e.g., the Ford Taurus
SHO, with a representative out-of-the-box RWD car from 1990, e.g., the BMW
320.

Which accellerates and handles better in the snow???  
I think SHO does.

2) Same scenario as in (1), but now adding studded winter tires.

Which accellerates and handles better in the snow???  
This might be a tie. Though, I would think the SHO accellerates better, but
the BMW handles better.
 
Michael
94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Shylo McKinsey <mrfluffy02@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, November 5, 2004 12:07 pm
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO successor?

> "A properly set-up RWD car will work far better than a
> FWD car."
> 
> True. My dad's '69 Mach 1 with stud tires on all 4
> corners holds the roads much better then my SHO
> anyday. But with the all seasons he has on it right
> now, I'd really like to see him keep up with me. I
> highly doubt he will, but maybe I'm wrong.
> 
> Like you said, a RWD properly set up will drive better
> in the snow, but, how many "clueless" people out there
> will spend time/money (which, I admit, isn't all that
> much) to equip their RWD cars with the proper "stuff"?
> Not too many. Even in a place like MT, most people
> here don't even bother, they just drive/slide to their
> destinations. So, for where I'm from and what I grew
> up dealing with, FWD is better.
> 
> Shylo McKinsey
> 
> '91 White MTX
> 
> --- Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:
> 
> > No, that's the point many of us are making.....FWD
> > is NOT better than RWD in
> > the snow. BTDT. A properly set-up RWD car will work
> > far better than a FWD
> > car.
> > 
> > FWD cars are good in the snow for the bulk of
> > clueless drivers who have
> > never learned proper car handling in ANY kind of
> > conditions.
> > 
> > Ron Porter
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Shylo McKinsey
> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 12:38 AM
> > To: Jason Hartberger
> > Cc: TaurusSHO
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Pontiac unveils SHO
> > successor?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And for the rest of you SHO folks, I've watched this
> > thread go on for at least WEEK. AND NONE of you have
> > made ANY sense the last 3 days. Guess what, just
> > call
> > it good and leave it, cuz this thread is DEAD. FWD
> > is
> > better in the snow then RWD. We all know this. 
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