[Shotimes] tranny issue (maybe)

Shylo McKinsey mrfluffy02@yahoo.com
Sat, 6 Nov 2004 14:54:06 -0800 (PST)


I agree. Especially during the spring. Last spring in
NC, almost every morning the windows would be fogged
up. I would think Norfolk would get the same way...but
maybe not.

Shylo McKinsey

'91 White MTX

--- Carl Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
wrote:

> Jason,  Don't do something you will regret later. 
> Is the compressor
> working?  If so, think of it as a safety device at
> times.  Ever have a lot
> of people in your car and it's incredibly humid out?
>  The compressor will
> dry the air in the cabin and clear moisture off your
> windshield.  Unless
> you're converting your SHO into a racer, I don't see
> the point of removing
> the compressor.
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> 
> On Sat, November 6, 2004 3:27 pm, Jason Hartberger
> said:
> > Actually, this just about perfectly explains it.
> And, as you should've
> > been
> > able to figure out by now, I *like* long-winded...
> :-P
> >
> > I'll check the compressor. Stupid compressor. I'm
> about to just take it
> > out
> > and be done with A/C anyway... I don't need it.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Parrott" <parrotta@usa.net>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Cc: "Jason Hartberger" <at3hartberger@mail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 3:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] tranny issue (maybe)
> >
> >
> >> Jason,
> >>
> >> While it is technically possible that your
> converter may be playing
> >> tricks
> >> on you at idle, I wouldn't look to it as the
> source of your idle hunting
> >> problem.  Aside from a set of (unused) 2nd gear
> lock/unlock functions in
> >> the H3Zx code, neither the '93 H3Zx or the
> '94-'95 D4U1 PCM programs
> >> make
> >> any provision for converter lock in first or
> second gear (or IOW, the
> >> converter is always unlocked in first and second
> gears on the Gen 2
> >> ATX).
> >> Even so, it is technically possible that a short
> or other electrical
> >> gremlin is playing occasional havoc with the
> converter's lockup solenoid
> >> in
> >> the valve body, causing erratic lockup while at
> idle.  Highly inprobable
> >> (and very unlikely), of course, but still
> technically possible.  ;)
> >>
> >> BTW - have you checked to make 100% sure that the
> compressor is not
> >> engaging when this idle drop happens, despite the
> fact that the EATC is
> >> not
> >> in a compressor-use mode (i.e. clutch sticking,
> etc.)?
> >>
> >> As for the converter behavior that you described
> while at highway
> >> cruise,
> >> it's perfectly normal.  As I noted previously,
> the converter remains
> >> unlocked in both first and second, and will not
> lock in third or fourth
> >> until a) the coolant temp (as indicated by the
> ECT sensor) has reached a
> >> certain, predefined temperature (also referred to
> as "Torque Control" in
> >> EEC circles), and b) sufficient throttle position
> and speed have been
> >> achieved for that particular gear (third and
> fourth gears each have
> >> their
> >> own set of lock/unlock tables that specify when
> the converter should
> >> lock
> >> or unlock based on TPS and VSS sensor feedback).
> >>
> >> IOW, the behavior you described is normal.  ;)
> >>
> >> Sorry for the long-winded reply.  Hope it helped
> a wee bit.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jason Hartberger" <at3hartberger@mail.com>
> >> To: "Shotimes Mailing List"
> <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:55 AM
> >> Subject: [Shotimes] tranny issue (maybe)
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey guys, my engine has been acting kinda weird
> lately - actually, ever
> >> since the tranny swap. When at idle, the engine
> will normally rev fine
> >> at
> >> about 900 rpm (I have ted b's chip in), but
> occasionally (every few
> >> minutes
> >> or so worth of idling), the engine will... I
> guess grab? the RPMs will
> >> dip
> >> to about 700 for just a tiny little while and the
> car will start to
> >> lurch
> >> forward a little if I'm not on the brake. it's
> like the torque converter
> >> is
> >> starting to lock up for just a little while...
> like a tenth of a second,
> >> but then it'll back off and everything will be
> ok. I do have a brand new
> >> AXODE in there so it's under warranty, but is
> there something wrong with
> >> my
> >> tranny? I'm not too worried about it as it hasn't
> caused the engine to
> >> stall yet.
> >>
> >> While I'm on the subject... when I'm at highway
> speeds, after letting
> >> off
> >> the throttle to slow down and pressing on it
> again, the engine will rev
> >> up
> >> like it should, then it goes down about 300-400
> rpm, apparently as the
> >> torque converter locks up. it stays down until it
> happens again the next
> >> time I get on the throttle (even ever so
> slightly). Is this normal? it
> >> happens every frickin' time I let go of the
> throttle... shouldn't the
> >> converter stay locked up? or not? I really don't
> know much about
> >> ATXs....
> >> please help!
> >>
> >> Jason
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