[Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

Mike Bruce shoitoff@verizon.net
Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:46:22 -0500


My plug wells are dry, and my plugs and wires have never touched oil.
Sometime when I have a chance, I plan on removing the cam sensor, and
cleaning everything out with Q-tips.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin & Cheryl Airth [mailto:clubairth@peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:40 AM
To: Mike Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

Code 176 can also be caused by oil in one or more of the plug wells. 214
is
the cam sensor. It's a non contact sensor and mine was plenty oiled up
before it got changed and it was not damaged. It has to be that seal
it's
the only one that can leak externally.
.
.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 1997 8:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214


> Hmmm...I wonder if I might have a leak at the butterfly to short
runner
> connection since my light comes on when the secondaries have been
open.
> I'll try loosening the clamps and rotating the couplers.  I know
they're
> factory original.  Do you think I should be okay for a month or so
until
> the next time I plan to have the intake apart?
>
> I guess it could be a weak fuel injector as well.  They are original
> too.  The car has 116,000 miles on it.  It is cheap enough to have
> injectors cleaned; maybe I'll spring for fresh injectors.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:45 PM
> To: Mike Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
> If the code is on just one bank there is something wrong there.  Bad
FI
> or
> vacuum leak?
>
> 214 might be the cam sensor.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 1997 6:32 PM
> Subject: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
>
> > Hey all!
> >
> > Within the past few weeks (since the weather has gotten colder), my
93
> > ATX has started showing the CEL.  While driving normally, under 2/3
> > throttle, I get no light.  I do get a light for a couple minutes
after
> > spirited driving.  Usually, the light appears about 5 to 10 seconds
> > after resuming a safe, sane, driving style.  I can get the light on
> the
> > freeway, and twisty back roads.  All that seems to matter is that
the
> > secondaries are open.
> >
> > After pulling codes, I get 176(left bank o2 sensor lean), and
214(CID
> > circuit failure).  I get the same codes after resetting the computer
> and
> > driving for a few days.
> >
> > The car is a SHOshop stage 2 car with a Dynomax cat-back.  I have a
> D4U1
> > with a generically tuned LPM.  Both o2 sensors have less than 3
years
> on
> > them.  I have not noticed any loss of power or any other problems.
If
> > it weren't for the light, I would think the car was operating
> > perfectly(aside from the leaky cam seal).  I plan on replacing the
cam
> > seals when I install +20 cams.  Speaking of the leaky cam seal,
which
> I
> > think may be the one on the cam position sensor, could the leak be
> > fouling the CID sensor and setting the code?
> >
> > About the 176 code.  I know the chip is not set perfectly for my car
> and
> > will need to be tuned after cams.  Would it be possible that a poor
> tune
> > would cause an erratic A/F ratio coming off load to set a code and
> > illuminate the CEL?
> >
> > If you've read all that, thank you.  I eagerly anticipate your
> replies.
> >
> > Mike Bruce
> > 93 ATX
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