[Shotimes] RE: Upgrraded brakes was.....Re: Thanks for everyone that came to Washington, IL

[Kirk J Doucette]

Rotational mass. Your adding more weight with the wider heavier tire/ wheel
combo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nimz [mailto:pnimz@v8sho.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:23 PM
To: Ron Porter; v8sho@v8sho.com; SHOtimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Upgrraded brakes was.....Re: Thanks for everyone that came to
Washington, IL

That being said then when I do go to a race tire like the 245/45/16 on 7.5"
rims Kumho V700 (as compared to the Kumho 712 245/45/16 on same rims) then I
will appreciate the better brakes?

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Porter <mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: v8sho@v8sho.com <mailto:v8sho@v8sho.com>  ; SHOtimes@autox.team.net
<mailto:SHOtimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Upgrraded brakes was.....Re: Thanks for everyone that came to
Washington, IL

Yep.

With the Gen 3 brakes (as well as about any other car on the planet), the
only way to shorten stopping distances are better tires.

Bigger brakes, better pads, etc will help the car maintain the stopping
distance after repeated hard stops (better fade resistance).

Better brakes/pads/fluid, etc can give a better pedal "feel" at less than
100% usage, and for most people, this is the benefit of brake upgrades, but
it doesn't necessarily help ultimate braking performance. Kinda like opening
the intake & changing mufflers......gives you a nice sound, but doesn't
usually add any power.

Ron Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nimz [mailto:pnimz@v8sho.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:36 PM
To: Carter Fuji; SHOWHAT9@aol.com; dmall@mwonline.net; v8sho@v8sho.com;
SHOtimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Upgrraded brakes was.....Re: Thanks for everyone that came to
Washington, IL
So explain to me how much better the brakes are.  Do you mean you could not
get the ABS to function on all for wheels before your brake upgrades?????

I'll quote a post of mine from SHOforum.  Please do what you can to change
my mind.
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"You would be hard pressed to find better brakes than what is standard
equipment from the factory on the GEN3. The best brake mod is the rear plugs
for the proportioning valve. The next best brake mod is better tires.

People who have warping problems have less than OEM quality pads. IMHO

People keep telling me I need better rotors, better calipers, two pistons,
different pads....

I can get my 245/45s on 7.5" rims to kick in the ABS. How much better can
you get your brakes to work?

The only advantage to changing anything would be lifetime warranted
performance pads."
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Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx



----- Original Message -----
From: Carter Fuji <mailto:carterfuji58@hotmail.com>
To: SHOWHAT9@aol.com <mailto:SHOWHAT9@aol.com>  ; dmall@mwonline.net
<mailto:dmall@mwonline.net>  ; v8sho@v8sho.com <mailto:v8sho@v8sho.com>  ;
SHOtimes@autox.team.net <mailto:SHOtimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Thanks for everyone that came to Washington, IL

That's the way a SHO should stop, eh? I guess I got kind of spoiled hauling
a Porsche down from speed, the standard SHO brakes just weren't going to cut
it. Like I said, who needs to upgrade the rears? They really don't touch the
ground when the fronts work that good!

Carter Fuji