[Shotimes] Re: OT- Leno's new toy

[Paul L Fisher]

If you look at the sticker, destination fee is the same in the continental
US, no matter how far the dealer is from the factory. From what I
understand, they charge the average cost of delivery. I have no clue on the
whole Teamster thing.


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-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: OT- Leno's new toy

I have had friends that were transport drivers, and the 
Teamsters are VERY interested in anything that cuts down on 
the need for their drivers.  Thus, even if you pay the 
delivery fee to have a car delivered to say, my home town in 
IL, and I want pick up the car at the factory, then I can't 
do it, because the driver wasn't involved.  No need for the 
driver, they eventually drop them.

At least that is what I was told.  Makes sense from a union 
standpoint, not that I agree 100% with it.

I think American manufacturers should allow factory delivery 
with buyers treated like gold.  But I don't think it will 
happen.

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:

> Don, I don't believe that it matters to the Teamsters. The issue are the
> franchise deals that Ford signs with the dealers, as well as the state's
> Franchise Laws.
> 
> Same with BMW or Porsche if you do one of those European Delivery trips
> where you watch the car get built, take the keys, then tour Europe for a
few
> weeks. It is all coordinated through a dealer.
> 
> Yes, as I recall from my former GM days, that the company pools cars (I
> bought one) went through a dealer. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: OT- Leno's new toy
> 
> 
> Kerby,
> 
> I think that all legally sold (able to be licensed) cars 
> have to be sold through a dealer.  Don't even the program 
> cars that Ford employee's buy, eventually go through a dealer?
> 
> One reason is the Teamsters contract.  They have to deliver 
> the cars.  Thus, this is why when you want to take factory 
> delivery in America like you can in Europe, it really isn't 
> possible.
> 
> You want to get your new Vette at the factory?  You have to 
> really get it from a dealer in a nearby town is what I have 
> heard.  That dealer can then take it to the Corvette Museum 
> if you want some big delivery hoopla deal, but you still pay 
> shipping to a dealer, and the car has to be delivered to a 
> dealer.
> 
> Don Mallinson
> 
> kerbyh@netzero.net wrote:
> 
> 
>>I think his deal was with Ford.  I wouldn't be surprised if a dealer never
> 
> actually saw the car...
> 
>>Kerby
>>
>>-- "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>You kidding? Jay probably got sticker, or more likely, a discount!!
>>
>>Also possible that Jay struck a deal directly with Ford, and the
> 
> dealership
> 
>>just did the wash job.
>>
>>What Ford dealer wouldn't want to be the guy that sells Jay Leno one of
> 
> this
> 
>>new cars, so he can get the press, have pictures of himself & Jay
> 
> plastered
> 
>>all over the dealership, etc. 
>>
>>Selling a car to a major celebrity is free advertising, especially for a
>>bread-and-butter Ford dealer (as opposed to MB. BMW, etc that see more of
>>them).
>>
>>Ron Porter
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>>On Behalf Of Randy Palmer
>>Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:46 AM
>>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Shotimes] Re: OT- Leno's new toy
>>
>>
>>Wonder how much of a premium his dealer demanded...
>>
>>    -RP
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