[Shotimes] RE: OT Subarus and turbos and stuff . . .

[James F. Ryan III]

3000GT:
Base, SL, and VR-4 - only the VR-4 came with the 300+hp twin-turbo

Stealth:
Base, ES, R/T, and TT - only the TT (duh) came with the 300+hp twin-turbo


I'm finally back home!!!  But not for long - off to Minnesota next week.
Yee-Hah.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: "Viggen" <greyviggen@yahoo.com>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: OT Subarus and turbos and stuff . . .


> My uncle has a 3000GT.  I don't remember seeing markings on the car to
> know if it had the twin turbo, but I don't think it did.  The car doesn't
> strike me as being particularly quick either.  Didn't that car come with a
> base V6 and a twin turbo version?
>
> Finally, the car in question is a 92 with less than 30K miles on it.  Is
> it worth very much?
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> On Thu, September 30, 2004 1:10 pm, Viggen said:
> <snip>
> >    Oh yeah, by the way, the Mitsu 3000GT and Dodge Stealth
> > are the same car, and they have a V-6, hence the need for
> > twin turbos. Only Saab has tried to turbo-charge a V-6 with
> > ONE turbo, and I know the engine mgmnt. S/W is REALLY
> > complicated, since only one bank of cylinders has the added
> > back-pressure, but the turbo feeds both banks. I'd say the
> > jury is still out on that motor, but most TRUE Saab guys
> > want the 2.3 turbo 4-banger anywho. [IMHO, if you want a 4
> > that drives like a 6, this is a great choice : the engine
> > has 170 HP WITHOUT the turbo, but 230 HP with it, not to
> > mention torque at 258 ft-lbs) The V-6 - like the auto
> > tranny in the SHO - is meant to broaden the brand's appeal
> > to more folks here in the US. Let me state for the record
> > that we True Saab Fans are (pick your own past participle)
> > angered/incensed/PO'ed/depressed/nauseated/outraged that
> > Saab is now owned by GM. But the alternative was to go down
> > the sh*t-chute, so we Grin and Bear It. Lots of us won't
> > even consider the new cars (9-3 and 9-5), because the
> > hatch-back design was sacrificed for a true 4-wheel
> > independent suspension - but Saab needed that to compete
> > (we know 4-wheel is better, but a hatchback is so damn
> > versatile - I once carried 10 20# bags of blow-in recycled
> > insulation in my '83 2-door, a feat that could only have
> > been done with a station wagon). So far GM has mostly let
> > Saab alone (except for the hurried release of the 9-2X and
> > the shared Opel-made platform of the new 9-3), and they
> > know they run the risk of alienating the Saab Faithful if
> > they stick their nose into too much. Many (most?) of us are
> > not sure as to how it will all play out, so we're reserving
> > judgement, although we expect the worst.
> >
> >    I've rambled on enough.
> >
> > Todd R.
> > '01 Saab 9-3 Viggen, 26K
> > '94 AWD Talon turbo, 74K
> > '92 SHO, some mods, 73K
> > '95 SHO, no mods, 53K
> > [my mid-life crisis manifested itself in a car-buying frenzy]
> >
> >
> >
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