[Shotimes] BON and "turbonator"

[Noah South III]

OK, Don is right.  This explains it.

https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=9716&topic=139

They have complete control over what ads they want displayed on their site.
You should write them and let them know what type of scam they're allowing
to run on their site.  Unless of course they just care about money, and in
that case they won't filter it because it lessens their chances of getting
clicks.

-Noah South III


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:58 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] BON and "turbonator"

Of course a site has choice over whether they show Google ads or not.  
And V8SHO.com has never shown any Google ads that I am aware of, yes if 
you use their search engine you probably come up with sites that pay for 
top placement, and scam stuff like this always does, but that has 
nothing to do with the ads on BON that I think they should not run.

BON can just use the basic Google search without all those ads, but BON 
is a commercial site that needs to make money, nothing wrong with that, 
just that it hurts their credibility when they allow obvious scams like 
this.

But to repeat, BON does NOT have to allow Google to place those ads.  
Maybe they have a contract for a certain amount of time, but they made a 
decision to allow the ads, and they can remove them.  Google, unless 
they have an ownership interest in BON, doesn't dictate to them or 
ANYONE what can be on a web site. 

Of course BON is not under my control, so they can do what they want, I 
am just personally a bit disappointed that they allow that ad on their 
site.  They DO have a choice if it runs or not.

Don Mallinson

Paul L Fisher wrote:

>Actually, I don't think they do. Google classifies what kind of site they
>are on and the advertiser pays to be put on those types of sites. There
>might be a way to specifically exclude a certain advertiser but I'm not
sure
>about that. When you use the Google search on www.v8sho.com, Google puts
>their ads on the right as well. In tat case, I do not believe that
v8sho.com
>gets any money but they get to use Google's search engine to search the
>site.
>
>
>Paul L Fisher
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
>Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:04 AM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] BON and "turbonator"
>
>Noah,
>
>I understand, but even if Google places the ads, BON allows them to do 
>it, thus they are still directly responsible, IF it was me, I would pull 
>anything associated with it, especially if it isn't that much money.  
>BON does control whether those ads are on their site or not.
>
>Don Mallinson
>
>Noah South III wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hold up, those are GOOGLE ads, they really have NOTHING to do with BON,
and
>>BON has nothing to do with them.  BON makes some money by allowing google
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>place links on the site.  It's not much money however, but it's extra
>>    
>>
>income
>  
>
>>none the less.
>>
>>BON was the last place I really expected to find advertising for some
snake
>>oil product, so I read your post and couldn't believe they'd stood so low.
>>Luckily it wasn't them that stooped that low.......it was google.
>>
>>-Noah South III
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>>On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:41 PM
>>To: 'v8sho'; SHOtimes
>>Subject: [Shotimes] BON and "turbonator"
>>
>>Well, the old scam product is back, this time as the turbonator, and I 
>>guess money talks, because Blue Oval News is advertising them.  Use to 
>>be what?  the Vortex, and a bunch of other names.
>>
>>I know not everyone agrees with BON, but for the most part they run a 
>>good web site, and in their own way they are pretty well balanced 
>>between being a Ford lackey and a thorn in Ford's side.
>>
>>don't everyone push and shove to get your Ford SUPERCHARGED, which is 
>>the new claim for this useless device.
>>
>>Don Mallinson
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