[Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down

Ron Porter ronporter@prodigy.net
Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:39:16 -0400


I drilled down into the link that Ian provided, and saw a couple of
Granatelli's posts on the subject. There's probably some history behind all
that, but his posts seemed reasonable to me, then folks on those lists were
jumping all over his case.

The thing here is that MAFs are not a hot item as much as on the Stang
lists, as IMHO the folks who want one generally already have one, and with
the low number of SHOs out there (versus Stangs), MAFs are not a daily hot
topic.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Pillsbury [mailto:showerks@comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:32 PM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down

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Damn you guys are living in the dark ages. I've been watching this go 
down on the the stang boards I belong it seems like forever, Oh well I 
think the last thing I really read with any interest was a couple guys 
from ProM moved a flowstand to Lansing Stole some software and are up 
and running. All and all pretty a pretty interesting read if you hit 
every board Granatelli posted on,
Dave

Ron Porter wrote:

>Prior to learning about this issue a couple of hours ago, I had never heard
>of GMS, nor knew that Granatelli did MAFs. Everyone is jumping on their
>case, but Pro-M "did" screw them, and the courts agreed. If GMS does what
>they say wrt their relationships with Delphi, Hitachi, etc, it sounds like
>they offer a good quality product, and the fact it costs 2x more should be
>reflective of that quality, and obviously they have a more solid business.
>Being the lowest-cost provider means nothing if your quality and service is
>only 1/2 as good.
>
>For as much as folks bitched about the SHO Shop, this was the fine line
that
>they walked. I'm sure that Vadim would much rather have had better-quality,
>as well as more expensive parts (he was an engineer, after all!!), he also
>knew the SHO market, and had to keep prices more reasonable.....which also
>compromises the quality.
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:28 PM
>To: TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down
>
>I find this interesting. As I was reading the comments
>on the forum that I posted about I began to see a
>larger picture and I remembered the problems that you
>had with Pro-M. It seems that back in the day they
>were pretty good but were lacking in quality recently.
>
>Whatever the case may be, I didn't care for
>Granatelli's attitude on the forum. I also thought
>that some of his claims were outrageous such as "Pro-M
>used junkyard cores for their MAF's". I am satisified
>with my Pro-M (I'll find out more when I begin using
>my TwEECer) so I feel that perhaps I was lucky. I know
>that it is one of their earlier 80's as it was
>purchased when they first came out by John Gentry
>(whatever happend to him anyway?)
>
>I just hope that I have someplace to go when I need a
>filter.
>
>Ian
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