FW: [Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down

[Bill Murray]

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Murray <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>
Date: 04/28/05 04:35 PM
To: Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net>
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down

Thats probably why Vadim went so up market with evosport.  Owners of those cars have much more money to spend and they are willing to pay for the added cost the quality can cost.  Granitelli sure didn't make any new customers off of the posts they made to the mustang boards.  Way too much attitude in their posts.  I thought his post about pro-m using jy mafs was amusing also.  What car came with a polished 75mm maf?  Or a 77mm that has a cone filter bolt right to it.  They even had a 110mm unit, OEM on what brand?

Bill Murray
happy pro-m user since '98
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net>
Date: 04/28/05 03:53 PM
To: TechSHO@topica.com, shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down

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Prior to learning about this issue a couple of hours ago, I had never heard
of GMS, nor knew that Granatelli did MAFs. Everyone is jumping on their
case, but Pro-M "did" screw them, and the courts agreed. If GMS does what
they say wrt their relationships with Delphi, Hitachi, etc, it sounds like
they offer a good quality product, and the fact it costs 2x more should be
reflective of that quality, and obviously they have a more solid business.
Being the lowest-cost provider means nothing if your quality and service is
only 1/2 as good.

For as much as folks bitched about the SHO Shop, this was the fine line that
they walked. I'm sure that Vadim would much rather have had better-quality,
as well as more expensive parts (he was an engineer, after all!!), he also
knew the SHO market, and had to keep prices more reasonable.....which also
compromises the quality.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:28 PM
To: TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shotimes] Re: GMS sues Pro-M and shuts them down

I find this interesting. As I was reading the comments
on the forum that I posted about I began to see a
larger picture and I remembered the problems that you
had with Pro-M. It seems that back in the day they
were pretty good but were lacking in quality recently.

Whatever the case may be, I didn't care for
Granatelli's attitude on the forum. I also thought
that some of his claims were outrageous such as "Pro-M
used junkyard cores for their MAF's". I am satisified
with my Pro-M (I'll find out more when I begin using
my TwEECer) so I feel that perhaps I was lucky. I know
that it is one of their earlier 80's as it was