[Shotimes] Re: For sale, Pritesh Deb's 3.6L

Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:40:38 GMT

You can't beat traction.  It's a marvelous thing...

Kerby

-- "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:
No, ain't gonna happen. Even with my station wagon, which is not as quick as
an EVO or STI, Lightning trucks (with/without drag radials), SHOs, John
Hrinsin's SHO, SRT-4, and I can't remember the other, can't touch me for the
first few hundred feet. Besides the good 60', the next couple hundred feet
are also strong.

I did not run Josh, but even with full drag slicks, I'll bet I would nail
Josh's car up to at least 330'

I have also read (from LGT owners who used to own EVOs or STIs) that the EVO
and STI are both easier to launch.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Fisher [mailto:dataflash@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: Ron Porter; Shotimes
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: For sale, Pritesh Deb's 3.6L

Having driven a new EVO, I don't think that any SHO
will touch it from 0-60. Perhaps I misunderstood his
comment. Maybe it was 0-30 or 30-60. He mentioned that
the SHO won't hook up very well in 1st gear which I
can believe. FWD, 3.6, etc. Technically I could see an
SHO taking out an EVO from 0-20ish but there isn't
much turbo lag in an EVO. (I don't care what the
magazines say!) 

Ian

--- Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Too many #s being thrown around!!
> 
> The numbers that have been used for power loss is
> 18% loss for an MTX, 22%
> loss for an ATX. These loss #s have correlated well
> when run against stock
> cars.
> 
> Anyway, using 230 HP in an ATX, 230 / .78 = 294.8
> Flywheel HP (theoretical).
> 
> Now, take the 295 FWP and calculate with an 18% loss
> for an MTX:
> 
> 295 x .82 = 241.9 WHP.
> 
> Anyway, if an ATX with big cams and other mods that
> reduce low-end
> torque......3.6 engine notwithstanding.........can
> beat his EVO 0-60,
> someone needs an Evo driving lesson, or they need to
> reconnect the two (out
> of four) Evo COP wires.
> 
> This is a tough one for me. I have defended Vadim
> over the years, as I've
> had good luck in m dealings with him. 
> 
> BUT.....I have also had rides in/driven a few of the
> SHO Shop setups, and
> have been greatly underwhelmed. I must admit that,
> if this were a car that
> one of the Doug's or Josh set up, I would tend to
> believe it, but I'm gonna
> have to emphatically throw the BS flag, especially
> after the 0-60 comment.
> 
> MTX SHOs with cams rarely seem to be quicker 0-60
> than stock. Putting cams
> in an ATX is gonna be worse. If there were some
> timeslips involved, I also
> "might" not be as skeptical.
> 
> Over the years Pritesh has seemed like a nicer guy,
> but I think he's
> believing his own hype.
> 
> Ron Porter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 10:14 AM
> To: TechSHO@topica.com
> Cc: _ShoTimes
> Subject: [Shotimes] Re: For sale, Pritesh Deb's 3.6L
> 
> By the way, I should make it clear that I am in no
> way
> endorsing this car. I've never seen it in person nor
> have I met Pritesh in real life. We've chatted on
> and
> off since 1999 when I got my first SHO in college
> and
> was 19 at the time. It was an atx and so was his.
> Naturally I was attracted to the big rims, blacked
> out
> headlights/tailights and the huge catalog of SHOshop
> parts that were on it.
> 
> Over the years my tastes have changed dramatically.
> I
> am no longer a fan of blacked out headlight/tailight
> covers; I don't like the SHOshop, etc. But Pritesh's
> car also evolved and although it isn't the direction
> where I want to take my personal SHO, it is still a
> neat car IMHO and seems to be very clean. The fact
> that it has a 3.6 that hasn't grenaded yet makes it
> an
> anomaly. =) Unfortunately, the fact that it's also
> an
> atx is also working against it, at least in my book.
> 
> Pritesh claims that the car is very strong; that the
> 0-60 is faster than his new EVO. I don't know one
> way
> or another. However, I came to the conclusion that
> the
> rest of us did when I looked at the dyno chart. The
> car shows that its pulled ~230hp in 3rd gear, not
> 260
> as the shift spike shows. It's a shame that it's not
> an mtx because it probably would be putting down 260
> at the wheels w/gobs of torque. When cars like these
> are modded and dynoed, it makes me glad that I sold
> my
> atx for an mtx. It was perhaps the single best mod
> that I performed. There's a lot more hp/tq potential
> now than I had before, not to mention the
> fun/control
> factors.
> 
> And I have to agree with Al. The price is a bit
> "high".
> 
> So, I'm not recanting what I said earlier; just
> clarifying it a bit more.
> 
> Ian
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