[Shotimes] so *that's* what it feels like to screw the pooch

[Anthony Clerkin]

On the other hand, a fresh O2 sensor never hurt a car, and since the job is
quick and relatively cheap, why not? 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ron Porter
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:31 AM
To: 'Jason Hartberger'; '`V6 SHOtimes'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] so *that's* what it feels like to screw the pooch

You really should not have "fried" the O2. Just running lean won't do
anything. The codes were most likely just telling you that the O2 was
reading 9or trying to read) out-of-range.

I dunno, unless something has changed with SHOs over the last few years
(which I doubt), I feel that way too man O2 sensors are replaced that really
don't need to be. Much like the number of heater cores that used to be
replaced, and it was only leaky hose connections.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Jason Hartberger
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:22 PM
To: `V6 SHOtimes
Subject: [Shotimes] so *that's* what it feels like to screw the pooch

I screwed it good, too. I finally got a chance to inspect the car this 
afternoon. Fortunately, the fire itself didn't destroy anything but I 
discovered a little late that the fire extinguisher was made out of PKP. 
Those of you who know what PKP (potassium bicarbonate, or purple K) is 
know how bad it is for electronics. And that's why it's only recommend 
for alpha or bravo fires. Fortunately, I had a bravo fire so I was good, 
but another 5 seconds and it would've been a charlie fire... So I'm 
going to get to do a lot of wire repair. Fortunately there was very 
little exposed wiring or circuitry so there's actually little damage, 
but what there is is bad. Also, I guess since all of my fuel was going 
out the test port and not into the cylinders, I was running an 
unbelievably lean mixture, which I'm sure damaged my engine. I know it 
fried my rear O2... I pulled the codes 511 (from the LPM I'm sure) and 
175... and I can't remember which one that means but I know 175 and 176 
are the O2 sensors, and I just changed the front one :). So now I get to 
change the O2 that I've dreaded changing for so long. Oh, and I 
permanently f***ed my test port. Even with the valve closed it still 
gargles out fuel. I got a valve cap with an o-ring from the exchange and 
torqued it down real good, which stopped the leak. For now. I'm going to 
have to replace the schra(e?)der valve, and I don't know how to do that. 
I guess it can't be that hard but working with the fuel system scares 
me, for a few reasons. I splashed fuel in my eye while seeing if the 
valve was actually closed with my pen (yes, it really was, and I guess 
the good news is there's plenty of pressure at the rail...) and it still 
hurts. I said to my wife a few weeks ago that I was surprised that 
annabelle hadn't had any real mechanical problems in almost a year... 
well fate came by to shove an M86 up my butt. Now all my clothes reek of 
fuel, I've reeked of fuel for 2 days now, my entire car reeks of fuel, 
I'm looking at at least $200 in repairs to various damaged components 
(it wasn't just the O2 I fried) either from the fire or the PKP or 
driving the car so lean. I've had a massive headache too for 2 days and 
I'm sure I've inhaled completely unhealthy amounts of fuel vapor. People 
smell it in my breath. My back and neck hurt all sorts of a lot from 
hunching over my car... my god. I've about had it with this car. It 
leads me along, and just like that poor guy from "Eurotrip", makes me 
say fl|genh_`genauph before I can stop the beating. My eyes burn. I'm 
going to bed.

-- 
Jason Hartberger, AT2(AW) USN
USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71
AIMD/IM-3 CASS
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