[Shotimes] celebrity SHO ownership

[Donald Mallinson]

Owner trail is pretty clear here, even if the title didn't change, money 
changed hands, and there is no doubt whatsoever that the dealer now owns 
the car and NOT the original "owner". Thus no possible way to claim the 
car is a one owner when two people have legally owned the car.

For collector purposes, a car owned by a dealer is just another owner.

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:

>Well, that comes down to the definition of "owner". Guess I don't see it as
>being much different than someone having a dealer sell a car on consignment.
>To me, "no title = no ownership". Frankly I had thought of not doing a title
>transfer on my brother's Fiero GT so that it could stay "one owner", but in
>havig to get Comprehensive insurance in two different states over the past
>eight years, it was easier to transfer (and it's still a "two owner, one
>family" car).
>
>Personally, cases that "really" stretch this is when someone is selling a
>never-titled car with an MSO. Sure, a brand-new car at the dealer will be
>this way, but there have been cars that are tw0-three model years old, maybe
>have 1,000-1500 miles on them, and are still on the MSO (so that you can be
>the "first owner"). Of course, someone has been driving around with a Dealer
>plate and/or an "In-Transit/Repair" plate for the last year or two!!
>
>I used to see a fair number of these in the AutoWeek classifieds, but they
>don't show up there as often anymore.
>
>Personally I call it a "stretch" to call Paul Kantner a "celebrity"!!  ;-)
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
>Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:06 AM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] celebrity SHO ownership
>
>wow, whydon't they have this car in the Barrett-Jackson auction!  :)  It 
>should bring almost as much as Ozzie Nelson's station wagon.
>
>I hate how people say it has only had one owner when the SECOND owner is 
>placing the ad.  I don't care that a dealer doesn't have to run the 
>title through, the car is now owned by someone else, it is a TWO owner 
>car.  ONLY the original owner can say a car is a one owner car.
>
>One of my pet peeves.
>
>Wonder what the reserve is?
>
>Don Mallinson
>
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