[Shotimes] celebrity SHO ownership

[Ron Porter]

Hard to tell. I did a Reverse Look-Up on the address, and it's S&C Ford, as
well as an Enterprise outlet (which some Ford dealers use for their service
rentals....BTDT).

Regardless, 10 years down the road, the next person would be the 2nd owner,
as that's all that a title search would show. Much like my MSO example of
the "first" owner of a 3-year-old car.

It's all a "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" anyway. To me,
there are very few "celebrity" cars that are worth any $$$. The Kennedy limo
(in the Henry Ford Museum) and an Elvis Cadillac come to mind, but other
than that, who cares?

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:14 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] celebrity SHO ownership

Yea, I agree, if the car is still owned by the original owner, then yes 
it is a one owner car, even if sitting on a dealers lot on consignment, 
or listed by a friend.  That might be the case with this car, but I 
doubt it.  I would ask who the check is made out to. 

Again, anytime money changes hands, that is a new owner in my book.

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:

>You are also assuming that a 'dealer" owns the car. In looking at that Ebay
>listing, I see no such thing. In fact, it is a zero-feedback seller, with
no
>other items.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/96hol
>
>I will bet $$$ that the seller is a friend/relative/business or personal
>acquaintance of Paul Kantner who probably doesn't want to deal with the
>public in selling the car.
>
>If you were to sell a car for someone n your family, I would hardly think
>that you would call yourself an "owner" of it.
>
>That comes down to our definitions of "owner". If you morally feel that $$$
>changing hands is an "owner", that's fine. I go with the title. Now, the
>dealer "should" (at MI and other states I've been in) do a dealer
assignment
>of the title so the next owner gets the title from the state. If they
don't,
>it becomes a direct transfer from the first to the second owner.
>
>
>Ron Porter
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