sorry for the cross post- I know that some people here don't read the forum.. 3.2 HG's are supposedly coming back out. They are made by FelPro. http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=40879 Ian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250